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Yep I've seen players in the high 500s. There is no cap that im aware of. Any color of dot in range of your mini map (radar) should be taken as a sign to be on guard. No one can be trusted but that doesn't mean kill em all. Simply be ready. For instance , we had just completed a legendary bounty ,as we redrawn in game there is a posse of 4 chasing 1 grieve. Not a shot was fired at us as we were just trotting in to town minding our business , the posse leader was wary of us but I give him a thumbs up emote and all was well. You will encounter both in this game. If someone kills you unprovoked GAME ON !! Let's rumble.

I have a lot of sympathy with people struggling to let things go, to be honest. I was right outside my Camp last night, maybe 50yds, I could hear Cripps talking to me. I had a deer carcass on my horse and another on my back, so I was on foot (yes, I could have dragged it but not sure that would have helped and I was 10 seconds out of Camp!). A blue dot suddenly runs up behind me, knocks me to the ground and murders me with an axe. I respawn, but get no parley button, just isn't there, although there was the option to press charges. When I came back (unhelpfully with no horse and much further from Camp), he was standing right there so I shot him with a repeater. He then fired a dynamite arrow at me and I was dead again. Lost the two carcasses and wasn't happy that he got the last word in something he started when I was just innocently hunting and right by my own Camp. So I logged off and played Elite Dangerous for an hour instead. I have bigger guns and shields in Elite. Thing is, I'm level 97 with decent kit, stats, cards etc., so while some have said that his is a sort of rite of passage we each must go through I find it lasts longer than that. It isn't too frequent, though, although it has made me wonder why I try being a good guy. Bandits have it easier. The dots to me seem to mean nothing. I have been attacked by both blue and red (axe dude last night was blue), makes no difference, and I have never shot first, I don't do the PvP minigames and I am usually hunting or collecting when being bullied. It's like being in school. Nothing against the game, it's amazing and the unpleasantness is rare enough that it isn't making me lose that love, but the coloured dots mean literally nothing useful.

100% ☝ only thing is we don't let it go. 😀 hell bent on showing these cats they ain't as bad as they think. Nothing better than seeing grieves jump server cause there as% got owned !! 😀

Despite the name, 'Parlay' doesn't actually involve any talking - you don't need a mike. You just press the Parlay button, which is (usually, but not always, for some unknown reason) available on the respawn screen, and the person who killed you and their posse are unable to target you for 10 minutes. There are still d!ck moves they can pull, like shooting near you with a dynamite arrow to catch you in the blast, but parlay solves 95% of your problems, after you've been killed once. The thing to remember is that getting killed doesn't actually cost you much in this game - a bit of pride, a bit of rage and a bottle of horse reviver if they've targeted your pony. Whilst this pair sound like a$$holes, you need to let it go. there's nothing reportable in their actions, even if there's nothing commendable, either. I had a Beta flashback the other day - I rode into Valentine, got off my horse at the butcher and was shot in the back of the head without warning. thought I would look up the noob/idiot/griefer who did it, saw that he was level 430+. Really? You'd hope that people would have grown out of it by then. Was I cross? yes. for a couple of minutes. Did I actually lose anything beyond a 30 second loop of respawn and ride back to the butcher? no Did I let it spoil my day? no. Like the cartoon blonde lady says in the song - Let it Go, Let it Go...

I get a lot of use out of them. Of course first things first, assume all dots want to kill you. Pale blue: defensive and highly unlikely to shoot me. Blue: someone who just hasn't shot me yet Pink: probably someone who had a fight with another player, but it's been a while. Might shoot me, be on guard. Red: 2 types Red that was blue and shot at me: helps me identify my opponent in a town full of blue. Red high hostility: long range visibility, gives me time to decide what I wanna do. Fight? Go in defensive? Find a safe zone? Ride away fast? Most likely to shoot me, but I have time to gameplan.

Sympathies on lots of that (and agree, Press Charges is a waste of thumb movement), but to answer your third point - I don't think that there is a maximum level, it is open-ended. The unlockables just stop at level 100 (although you still get a treasure map every five levels). The xp target increases by 10% or so each time IIRC although others will correct if I'm a bit out. I need something in the low 6000s to hit 98.

Why didn't you use the "Press Charges" and "Parlay" options available to you? As I recall, you respawn a little further away and have immunity for a period of time.

looks like it was the country after all the rockstar guys are crazy! they think that we can play poker for real money but not for virtual money. this is really retarded ...anyway, i changed my country in my account and it's solved, the poker appeared everywhere thanks a lot for the information

I have gold bars but no cash. I had assumed you could purchase anything with gold but apparently not. I am out of ammo and out of cash. I cannot hunt things to sell because I am out of ammo I cannot join missions (?) because I am out of ammo. I cannot convert gold to cash in the online game. Fence does not accept gold in online game. Brand new player totally frustrated.. any suggestions as to what do do because I see no way to continue playing. TY PS I am terrible at shooting.. have not figured out how to react quickly, however when I try to wave at people I usually am hitting or shooting at them. I have ordered a game controller to try instead of keyboard and hoping that will help.

I found and sold some herbs but did not use dead eye (nor a lasso)

I've seen a few since the update. They usually disappear before I can even acknowledge the invite. I did get one however, the wanted player had just spawned in and didn't know what was happening so I shot him and hauled his body to the jail.

Sounds to me like the whole problem could be solved by introducing a new mode, called, say "passive" or something. This mode would be PvE only, the player cannot fire on/damage other players or be fired on, and it would be suspended if going into a PvP event. If they did this rather than change the defensive mode further, they would have settings that would cover easily 90% or more of the preferred play styles of their players, most everyone would be able to play just as they wish. Just my 2₵.

Of course its sold all year, but I cant eat the stuff in the summer. Goes great with a good beer. Breath mints recommended.

It's not useless. No offense but It would help if you knew how these mechanics function so you can best utilize them to mitigate the issue with griefers: Press Charges: When a lower Hostility player is killed without retaliating they will have an option to “Press Charges” during the respawn period, which will enforce an increase on their attacker’s Hostility and Bounty value. Press Charges is not available if you are a high Hostility player or marked as an enemy to the player who killed you. This feature will help further increase the player's hostility and bounty while also making them more visible to others. .....others who then in turn could engage them if they wish to do so. The function in itself does little to stop the griefing (unless someone is worried about their hostility level making them more visible to others) but gives the victim some level of recourse to help identify abusive players. However, when used in conjunction with the next feature we're going to discuss, that's when these options are useful..... Case in point.... One has absolutely nothing to do with the other. As mentioned, Parley in RDO isn't a "sit down" with the offender so you guys can talk it out. It's simply a time out of sorts to allow you to get away from the conflict. It works by spawning you further away from the action and puts a timer (10 minutes was mentioned) where neither you nor the attackers can harm one another. This is meant to allow players time to escape the area and go about their business if they wish. The "Press Charges" function merely gives the victim who wants to flee some sort of recourse. Alternatively, you also have the option to Feud with your attackers instead of selecting Parley. ....if PvP is your kind of thing. R* has been tweaking this system for a while. Initially, you could only Parley after being killed 3 times by an individual. That meant that larger posses could take turns to the point where it would seem you would never get the option. Earlier this year they changed that so you only have to die once to initiate the option and it applies to their entire posse (not just the individual player who kills you). Defensive Mode can also be quite useful as others won't have the advantage of auto aim (neither will you), lethality/damage is decreased toward your character and you have the option to retaliate against your attacker(s) without a penalty to your hostility level if you choose to do so. Level has little to do with any advantage players have over one another after a certain point IMO / IME. .....lvl 90 or thereabouts I believe is the last unlock for specific types of ammo as I recall. I see low level griefers, high level griefers and ones in between. Trolls will be trolls. Use the systems available to you to help reduce their leverage against you whether that's a higher level or numbers of players Again, that was my point. If I were you, I would take some time to first learn how these defensive mechanics / options work and use them. Initiating Parley in that scenario would have helped save you a lot of frustration as the first death would likely have been their only action against you. btw, just because I mention using the tools available in the game to help counter griefing doesn't automatically mean I condone the action or relish in your misery. I'm trying to help here. Perhaps I can tolerate it better than you because I use the systems the game provides. While not foolproof, they help cut short the griefer's fun and / or help mitigate the problem all together. Besides that, I also use strategies that I have since the game first launched when everyone was visible on the radar at any distance, Parley was essentially useless due to how many kills it took to implement, there was essentially no hostility system, no Defensive Mode, etc. If you're really bothered by the possibility of being griefed again and/or are in a similar situation, my suggestions would be: Start using Defensive Mode if you are not already. Learn how it works and use it to your advantage. For Pete's sake, use the Parley option if you are killed by a troll or otherwise in a situation where you want to avoid being continually griefed. Don't trust randoms. .....period. If I see a blue dot on the outer edges of my radar, I know they see me so I take action right away especially if I'm alone. .....that action includes getting the hell out of Dodge before they can rush me. My horse is always kept next to me when I play solo so I can be on it and running before someone is upon me. Assuming you're in Defensive Mode, zig-zag while riding away from a potential threat. This makes it much harder for them to get a shot because (remember) auto aim is disabled while in Defensive. If you're worried someone will follow you, run from the area until they drop off completely on your radar. At that point, change your course a few degrees. .....follow another road, get off the road you're on, use the terrain to your advantage, double back if possible, etc. Remember, as long as your hostility is low, if you can't see them on your radar, they can't see you either. ....use that to your advantage. Consider keeping your gun drawn near randoms if your willing to defend yourself and never turn your back on someone. Even when riding away I will still watch them. When with a posse, we usually spread out when passing by randoms and keep our weapons ready. .....again, someone or all are always watching their moves. The lead will usually stop and turn toward the potential threat until the rest of the posse passes. When spawning into the game, choose a state that is a couple regions away from where you plan to go. The game tends to spawn most players in the same general area. This helps reduce the chance of running into people. I've been doing this tactic since I first discovered how the spawning worked early on. This also goes for missions that reinsert you into new sessions. Consider joining a posse as was suggested. There are plenty of folks looking to recruit or simply find another player they can have fun with. Just having one more friendly player can make a huge difference. Sometimes just being in a posse is a deterrent in itself as some griefers will simply not bother with you. Lastly, don't take it so personal. Griefers grief because they want you to be upset by their actions. Don't give them the satisfaction. I rarely get griefed (and I mean rarely), and most time it's due to my own fault and I see it coming. .....sometimes it's simply out of curiosity to see what they will do. The thing is, I don't let it bother me too much. I use the tools, modes and options available and move on. Just because I tolerate the few times I am griefed doesn't mean I like it. .....but I'm also not making it easy for them by ignoring the options made available to me to help mitigate the problem.

I would imagine NPC bounty hunters is what's keeping us from seeing player bounties too often. I tried keeping my bounty up at one point to see if I ever got targeted for a "player bounty" but the NPCs constantly attacking every few minutes made me pay it off quickly.

My friend and I did something like that out in Armadillo. There's a few coffins and a pit where we would throw hogtied people in and then set them alight with a fire bottle. Watch the XP roll in lol. We actually got some randoms to join in too.

Check the options menu. It's in there. .....at least it is for controller.

I agree with you on blue-that-is-now-red; if they just attacked me in town then I'm chasing them and introducing them to Captain and Tennille. Other than that I don't use them or discriminate (not sure I have even seen a couple of the colours you mention!).

The doc pays a surprising amount for some of the herbs. I drop in every now and then if I have started getting the 'you are already carrying the maximum amount of this' prompt and sell off my excess and there are a good few dollars in it. Plenty for some ammo. Hunting and gathering herbs pay plenty well enough to keep yourself in ammo, weapons and a happy horse.

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On a happier note - the new bounty was great, did two levels last night, one alone and one in a posse, I bought all the collector maps at discount (free money and gives some focus if I'm ever at a loose end so like to carry a few maps) and the new white vest goes great with my frock coat. I cut quite the dash. So I'm a happy customer, thank you!

Hate to hear your having such a ruff time out there. I do know that some players are just dirtbags that aren't good at any aspect of the game so there fun is to waste your time. I strongly suggest getting with a posse that chews these as% hats up and spits them out. Lots of friendly folk here always recruiting and will be at your side when these things happen. Posse up my friend.

I recall they said you can try larger increments but it's not a garaunteed fix. May have to fiddle with it or perhaps it may never work in your case.

For what?!? Lol. Not playing the way you expect them to? As Kean said, a parlay would have ended that whole thing immediately. Since being on here I'm shocked at how many times I've already read how people going ONLINE just want to be left alone. There is story mode after all. It is a survival game. Surviving animal attacks, hunting for food, dressing appropriately for conditions, collecting carrots to feed your horse. Earning money to buy meds and revivers, everything. And yes, surviving players wanting to shoot you for no reason as you see it. It's not a gardening game. When you take that leap out of private, safe, hassle free living of story mode, and jump into the unpredictable, fluid, and dangerous world of online play, well, you gotta be ready for anything, and have your head on a swivel and use the defensive tools available to you. Which work well when ego takes a back seat. We all started out at low level, and learned to survive.

I was in New Austin heading for camp when a white dot appeared indicating that a wounded animal had spawned. Being nearby, I turned toward it, dismounted and was walking up when another "blue" player ran up fast. I stopped to let him have the animal and turned to leave. He shot and killed my character anyway. I respawned and as I tried to mount, he and his friend started shooting at both me and my horse. Killed me and nearly killed my horse. I respawned again and ran fast as possible to my horse to revive him. 1) At the time I was only level 36. They were both extremely high level players, several hundred levels above me. 2) I was in defensive mode. I'm always in defensive mode. 3) Whenever I see another player dot on the map, I go out of my way to avoid them. I did see blue dots that time and took a route out of their way. 4) The two who rode up on me did not appear nearby on the map. It was dark, they rode up very fast and seemed to come out of nowhere. 5) Once they shot me and my horse, their dots turned red. I looked at the list of players in my session and saw them both, so I reported them. Defensive mode does not work to protect low level players from higher level ones. Defensive mode is actually useless for almost all situations when a player wants to not participate in PVP or to be a target for idiots like these two. I strongly urge R* to find a way to offer players better protection when needed than the extremely weak defensive mode. In this situation even the limited boosts offered by defensive mode were useless for me, lvl 36, against two players several hundred levels higher. I cannot begin to express just how discouraging this sort of thing is to people like me who only want to enjoy the game for relaxation after work. I spend money on this game too. Lower level players deserve space to do what they can in the time available to them.

Now that sounds like a good idea.

If you love old guns and the Old West, you will be doing yourself a great service if you do stop in. It has to be seen to be believed.

When I lived in Arizona, I spent the 10 years carrying a model 1875 Remington in 45 Colt (Uberti calls it the "outlaw") still fond of it, but then a 1858 conversion in 45 Colt came my way a couple years ago, full six rounds, loading gate, and all. The '75 is a little more practical, but I just love that '58. (Think of the gun "Angel Eyes" carried in TGTB&TU) Got a Henry rifle and a mare's leg in the same caliber paired with it, but going to pick up a '92 saddle carbine when shinier times come around. Also in discussions with the wife about moving back to AZ now that I'm retired. If we do, will go back to every day carry. For concealed carry, I have an original S&W .32 lemon squeezer. Not a huge caliber, but would get the job done.

Kinda not the point of the OPs thread but I hope you find a satisfactory resolution so you are able to leave this behind you.

Wait.... What country are you from? It could very well be that it is restricted due to your local laws. There are several countries that are not able to access the gambling feature in RDO because of this. I don;t have a list of those but that could be the case here.

Ever been tagged by one of those bad boys by a friend? Good times LOL. I keep a stack of scent glands handy just for that!

I switched from my xbox controller to my PS4 controller today with no issues at all on my PC, it recognized it immediately

Here is a quick way to do the Legendary Mission

Simple, buying directly from Rockstar will give them all the money directly. If they sell it through Steam they loose 25% of the cash. So to keep Steam out the first critical months of release they will cash in pretty good with that move.

Thanks, I'm stuck with gold as I'll go with the black - I'd be buying purely for the stats, to sample a meta horse, I have others I already love (palomino chestnut thoroughbred or something being my favourite - dappled chestnut brown coat with white mane and tail - best all-rounder I have found so I keep going back to him. So I'll get the Black Arabian and bypass the white altogether. Thanks for the clarification; I'm rarely at the stables, for some reason, and never go to websites surrounding the game as I try to stay immersed.

Thanks! I got my lasso out and naturally a cougar jumped me lol. I have to get more familiar with what keys bring up what weapons. A friend has started this game too and just advised me to go back and do the single player story first to learn things and THEN do the online so.. I am off to try that now

You've got a knife, right? Just off the top of my head.... You can kill someone and steal their money. You can trample on fish in the shallows of rivers and collect them in the water or as they wash up on shore. You can get up close and kill animals in a pen on farms. Obviously, some of those actions come with consequences of their own. .....or how about this.... Pick herbs and sell them to the doc / shop. There's plenty of them and you can get enough money to buy some ammo so you can hunt. Build up your ammo next time and keep an eye on it.

Lasso a deer (or antelope etc.) and kill it with your knife... sell to butcher... repeat a few times and stock up on ammo...

(grieves ) are learning new tricks. Had a community member riding solo , starts getting grieved by a posse of 4 , they post in Angels chat line and 5 of us join to help. We are owning them when all the sudden. They parlay , here's where it gets good , after they parlay they stand down there posse but are all still ghosted. They are able to still kill us but our Bullitt pass right through them ??? They will always find a way. Just gotta own it the best you can !

LMAO.... I’ll need to recruit a Bobandy into the Liquor Snurfs if this happens...

Yeah Rockstar is a lot of things and generous is one thing that never comes to mind for me. lol Just over a day until release!!!

^^ (Except for the Peppermint part) Thanksgiving dinner Is my favorite meal ever. We've got a family punch that we make as well that's killer. Christmas Breakfast is always good as well.

That is a good point. I tried using one of them generic PS controllers for a few games in the past and I couldn't get them to work. I also tried connecting a newer PS one using one of them sync things and it just didn't function right. Never had an issue with Xbox controller though.

I believe it is like $23 . But it really isn't worth it. I believe you get $17 if you capture them alive and less if you kill them. Really not worth it IMO. Don't get me wrong , I don't mind shooting people........BUT, I am not chasing you around for $17 . They need to raise it. Make it like x2 or x3 what it is now. Or maybe if a player is a level 300 that factors into the reward being higher. I dunno. Right now it isn't worth my time especially when I can make $50+ on a 3* NPC bounty. I did one a few weeks ago thinking I get paid. Nope. Much like the player/posse assassination mission, the payout needs to be higher. Players are supposed to be harder than dumb NPCs. Which is why the pay should reflect that.

Cripps Spawn Point after a guys camp disappeared.

Anyone up for Mario Cart?

They feed off your attention. A reaction from you is what they crave. Just hit parley and ignore. Pretty boring for them.

One guy started abusing me on his mic, swearing and stuff and saying "girls shouldn't be playing these type of games" and he was so busy doing it he fell off a cliff and died

Trolls don't have to be trolls, they choose to be. That is why I don't completely blame Rockstar.