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I didn't notice any issues last night while playing solo. I was able to cook, do side missions, etc. As for game crashes, that has been happening for myself and my friends randomly since early on in the beta. I would urge anyone expereincing glitches to report your problem to R*. This is a fan site and while it's great to discuss things here, this will never find its way to R* unless people report it directly to them. Here is the link to report feedback, etc.: https://www.rockstargames.com/reddeadredemption2/online/feedback?step=addb2b0b Here is a shortcut to reporting bugs / technical issues which will prompt a response from Customer Service: https://support.rockstargames.com/categories/115001624507?redirect_lang=en_us&_ga=2.27754236.1578040476.1547229452-1719606522.1525287356 They may not have a solution but they will normally tell you if it's a known issue or not that they are working on. ......and the more people that report, them more they will pay attention to the problem as being wide scale.

How do you buy ammo while in the showdown series btw?

No worries.

Bummer man. I've heard about others being roped while in camp with the white flag up. Luckily, I've never had the pleasure. I hope you sent feedback to R* about this bug. I'm sure others have reported it as well.

.....so, was your white flag raised or not?

R* spelled out several specific ways that they are looking to help mitigate the griefing issue in future updates. @Stvnbgo Your first mistake was messaging the troll. I'm assuming you said something that violated MS policy which is why MS banned you for 3 days (second mistake). R*'s report feature in the game is a different story and isn't related to your ban. I doubt it would have even led to a ban of the player you had the problem with but I still believe it's important to report disruptive behavior. In the future I would suggest you report the player(s) and then block them if you are able. I know you can do it on PS4 but I'm unsure how that works on XB1. I'd also suggest refraining from any contact. At that point you will look like the one who is doing the harassing especially if you use colorful or intimidating language. If someone is bothering you for that long, join another session once you report/block them. EDIT: btw, I closed the other duplicate thread I believe you may have created by accident in this forum.

The feature is included by R*'s and is in the report menu. Disruptive behavior is specifically included. Griefing is also one of R*'s biggest subjects of feedback they have received and they will be introducing anti-griefing measures as a result. ....so yes, of course I would encourage folks to make their voice heard by sending feedback, reporting trollish behavior and blocking abusive players. R* created RDO as a PvE and PvP experience (not PvP only). R* is also interested in taking a balanced approach to RDO which is all that really matters in my book.

Kinda like the surprise I got when I found out some of the PvP events used some of my own ammo / resources. Since I suck at PvP, it really wasn't worth the cost to participate. lol

^^^^ What Krow said.... Here are the latest details in the update from R* as to what some of those anti-griefing measures will include:

No. You wake up in a portion of the plane that broke off from the rest. You collect what you can in the plane and then outside with the luggage. The trailer may have shown something different though. .....you know how that goes sometimes.

Console.... If I were still gaming on PC I would be playing SCUM and probably dabbling in DayZ (along with all of the milsim titles we will never get like Squad, ARMA, etc.). ....also Insurgency which (luckily) is coming to console this year with their newest iteration Insurgency Sandstorm. The Forest was a PC game that was launched on PS4 last November IIRC. It's not on XB1 so if that's your platform it may be why you've never heard of it. .....although there are a lot of folks on PS4 that never heard of it either. Only by word of mouth. You're in a plane crash where you find yourself on an island. There are a lot of the same kind of ARK mechanics in this game. You chop down trees to gather logs to build structures. ....stones, sticks, leaves, sap, etc. You have to find drinkable water that requires being boiled or you can catch rain water by using a turtle shell from one that you catch. You craft weapons and improve them (spears, bows, clubs, slingshot, etc.). You hunt animals for meat that you can cook or dry. .....skins to craft, etc. The kicker is that after the first day or so, you realize you're not alone. The island is inhabited by cannibals. Once you have your first encounter, you begin to realize the small shelter you built may not be enough so you get started on building a fort, walls with fire pits, torches, water collection, etc. A place where you can collect and store resources and be a home base as you explore. It doesn't end with the cannibals as you also will encounter mutants as the game progresses. The sounds and atmosphere make the whole experience very creepy. I've been playing for a while and still get startled when you hear distant yells, footsteps and rustling.

Same here...... I actually owned the game on PS3 and bought it again on PS4. I still log on from time to time to run businesses and check out new content. Whether you like it, hate it or are indifferent to it, the fact is that GTAVO has been wildly successful and continues to be. I recall all the detractors saying that game would die too. R* hasn't abandoned PvE in RDO simply because PvP content was their first priority for the year. They have already announced new challenges coming soon as well as changes to Free Roam (to address the griefer issues) and "lots of new content that we will be releasing this year" (which includes PvE).

Have you played the Forest? Best $19 I've spent on a game in a while. Something about those survival / build games....

Hadn't thought of it that way but that makes sense. Of course, those looking for easy kills will still prefer Free Roam, but more PvP activities may lure them away from the rest of us.

On the other hand, we don't know the numbers or the feedback they have been receiving. PvP events could be one of those things a lot of the RDO community are playing more of than Free Roam and perhaps have been asking for more content. I get it.... I'm a PvEer too and would like to see more missions, side quests, PvE mechanics and content. ....and that's coming. If I have to shelve RDO at some point, I will. I still play GTAVO after all this time as new businesses become available, etc. I don't believe RDO will any different for me as a title that I come back to from time to time. I would encourage people to let their opinion be known by submitting their feedback on R*'s website. I've submitted all of my suggestions and complaints I've had here over there as well: https://www.rockstargames.com/reddeadredemption2/online/feedback?step=addb2b0b

It's scripted. Not unusual for any sort of customer service. A lot of times it's just easier for them to cut and paste the best answer to the problem than to type out a new and different response each time for essentially the same solution. I only mention replying if you're not satisfied so they know that this doesn't resolve it for you. At least it's on record and who knows, maybe they'll investigate further. Either way, seems the whole parley system is getting a bit of a overhaul in the near future so maybe that will fix whatever this was.

So they suspect the other team was cheating then? You know you have the option to reply back, right? They also send you an email to ask if the issue is settled or not. Let them know what you think if you're not satisfied with the answer.

I played a few of the PvP events last night with a friend (his choice). I have to admit that while PvP in this game really doesn't appeal to me because of the gunfighting mechanics (e.g. auto aim, rolling around, etc.), there were a couple PvP modes I found pretty fun. The "capture the flag" style mode was one of them and the "Most Wanted". .....depending on the map. I just wish there was a way to choose the mode you want instead of the way it cycles through modes / maps randomly. I tend to like the co-op / team play modes more but again, this game turns into a free for all in most cases as its really difficult to coordinate any kind of tactic other than what's happening in the immediate vicinity. Other downsides is that in some modes you use your own ammo and resources. Also, there is no balance in player abilities / experience. Last night there was a player who was level 140+ who was unstoppable. One shot head shots and when you tried to shoot him he went into this perfectly choreograph of rolls and instant, precise head shots. .....not my idea of fun PvP play. IMO, auto aim and the dive/roll feature completely ruins the experience and looks downright silly. For me, I'm just waiting for Insurgency Sandstorm to release on console to get my PvP fix. No markers, lethal TTK, the ability to use real tactics, etc. RDO is more about the Free Roam / PvE for me.

I'm a little leary about the proximity blips. I wasn't too sure about them before but definitely not sure about them now. I like that griefers will have a disadvantage by having their blip gradually change color and range but now players won't know if a town is infested with other players until they get there. Curious as to the range. As it is now, I simply avoid populated areas when solo and trying to play missions like wagon retrievals, mail deliveries and similar where you are exposed to potential threat from other players. Griefers and kill squads could also have the advantage of being cloaked until they find a target rich environment as they rove around the map. I guess I'll have to see how this works before I pass judgement though. This may end up killing the advantage the phone app has been giving me to avoid them.

What did they say then?

Yes, it is IME. Wagon retrievals, etc. Any PvPer who has participated in trying to stop me has always stuck around to kill us over and over again instead of vacating the area after the mission. One group actually followed us to another session. I don't know how, but there they were griefing us all over again. As far as everyone else in the session, I would agree. They are typically not toxic as they don't really care to ruin your fun. I don't blame people for participating in missions as the game encourages it (I think they should save that for specific PvP events, but ok). However, I also believe it encourages toxicity and griefing on unwilling participants.

Submit the incident to R* through their Support as a Bug / Technical issue. You can get to it from their feedback site but here's a direct link: https://support.rockstargames.com/categories/115001624507?redirect_lang=en_us&_ga=2.230675868.1434278383.1547147164-1719606522.1525287356 Someone will respond rather quickly in most cases although their answer may be that they will simply send it up the food chain. They will let you know if it's a known issue or not though.

Yeah, I know. ......which is why I suggested folks us the report feature. However, the anti griefing measures I speak of are what R* have announced will be implemented in a future update since they acknowledged the issue. Reporting players is fine but griefing is still an issue they have received many complaints about and I for one am glad they are looking to add something to the gameplay to address it.

No one knows any anything else is pure speculation right now. Knowing R*'s usual 11th hour news about such things, it could come tomorrow, next week, next month or..... The only thing we know for sure right now is that anti-griefing measures are in the works. Personally, I can't see them leaving RDO untouched for too long. We are however into the first solid week after the holidays so I suspect some news will be coming our way soon. If you really want the latest news as it hits then follow RockstarINTEL, Rockstar Games and similar on Twitter. That's where I go everyday to see if there are any updates.