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.....here's the list of vehicles that was leaked back then that I mentioned as well in case you missed it. Obviously, we know all the horses now since the beta already released since then: https://rockstarintel.com/red-dead-online-vehicles-leak-exclusive That site has been pretty spot on with their info IME but we'll have to see.

There was news from RockstarINTEL.com back in October where data miners had found code for property placeholders. The assumption that properties will at some point be included is based on those placeholders. This is true for the private lobbies and vehicles (e.g. wagons): https://rockstarintel.com/as-expected-youll-be-able-to-buy-properties-in-red-dead-online

I wouldn't be surprised if this is added later. Once properties are introduced, this may also be something included.

What sucks about shotgun slugs is that they don't increase the level of damage the weapon does. ......unlike Express ammo.

Spawned twice next to grizzly bear and a couple times next to a pack of wolves. .....fun times.

Nearly all of the folks I have blocked were not people who have griefed me. They were simply those I had noticed showing aggression toward others or perhaps have made moves, actions that appear threatening. I will also proactively block "dishonorable" players in posses. .....and yeah, call it profiling but players with outrageously high levels, certain gamertags, etc. are blocked as well. Maybe that's part of the reason why I've found more of my sessions lately populated with folks who appear to want to just do their own thing peacefully. ....I don't know. When playing solo I will sometimes take a couple minutes going through the player list and blocking certain individuals who are appear (to me) to be potential threats. When I read some of their profile descriptions, its obvious I made the right choice. On PS4 we have PSN Communities we can create. I find this also helps finding players to team up with who share a common interest. .....forums obviously do as well.

In my case, I play solo 2-3 times a week and I'm able to grind away with little drama. Hell, I was able to quickly (relatively speaking) rank up doing side missions by myself including repossessions, mail runs, etc. where you are quite vulnerable and open to targeted attacks. When hunting or doing missions I pick a region relatively free of other players. When selling goods I find a town with what I need that isn't populated by other players. If there is a distance to travel, I hunt along the way to make it worth my time. I simply avoid areas where other players congregate. I also proactively block trolls or those who appear they may cause trouble so my future sessions might be even more peaceful. I will say (again) that the game is much more fun with friends simply because of the camaraderie (I like talking, joking and co-oping with others) as well the protection it affords. When I'm with friends, I venture into areas I normally wouldn't if I were alone. ......and strangers tend to avoid you even more. As far as boredom due to a lack of content, I would agree. I'm not there yet as I still find it fun to play, but I can understand if others are. As far as trolls, it is rare that I ever have encounters with them these days playing the way I do. btw, the phone app is a terrific tool for situational awareness and I'd recommend it to anyone looking for added peace of mind when trying to avoid confrontations. I extended the invitation before but if you ever decide to get on, look me up. I'll team up with you if you want to explore the RDO world more, participate in activities, grind, etc.

Really sad? If by that you mean dealing with randoms in sessions then yeah, I might agree. .....but then again, I don't subject myself to that kind of torture nor would I expect anything good to come from it in most instances if I do. If I do meet someone by pure chance in game, befriend them and have a good time, it is a rarity. Most other times I find many of the folks in sessions simply don't want to have anything to do with you likely because they are wary of strangers and their intentions. Most folks I come across are simply passing through, doing their own business, etc. They will usually provide me with a wide berth, etc. and I afford the same courtesy. As far as open posses, some folks make them "open" by accident. I've had friends that have done this as well and were surprised when someone joins in. ......quickly kicking them out with no explanation since we are on an external channel. IME, sessions have been absolutely loaded with players. .....tons of new ones as well. I proactively block a lot of players (I mean a lot) and if it's any indication, I have never come across the same ones in new sessions (as I would expect I wouldn't if the block feature is working). I highly doubt player variety has anything to do with your issues. To be frank, I think your problem (IMO / IME) is trying to matchmake and meet total strangers in the game. Personally, I would recommend starting or joining a posse here on RDR2.org. Our PS4 posse keeps growing and we're at nearly 50 players now. My PSN Community is at 35 members. Even with these number there is no guarantee you'll find people to play with every time you're on but I still get to play at least 2-3 times a week with others in the group. Just had a blast last night with two old friends and then a new one from here later that night. We had a group of 3 all session. I also have another PSN friend I met in game who always has at least 5 people already in his posse. It's not uncommon for us to have a full 7 people when I ride with him. Maybe XB1 is different but I find networking outside of RDO is a far better way of making new in-game friends than within the game itself. .....and once you do find folks to play with, the game can be a lot more fun. I don't even mind it playing solo but with friends is more enjoyable. If I were to try and meet new people through the game I would probably try to do it with story missions. Although a lot of folks prefer not to have a mic on for some reason, sometimes you get lucky. .....and working together in a mission could be the ice breaker you need to ask to team up. If you were on PS4, I would invite you to team up together.

......and if they have that much control over an area, there is no need to be jerks and start killing people simply for coming into town to do their trading, shopping, etc. Just another form of griefing IMO. I've run with full 7 person posses and we don't do that nor do we find the need to. People tend to leave us alone and those that don't soon find out they should have.

Nice to see older folks like myself on here.

Just be aware that if you are intending to step away, you'll be susceptible to aggressors / griefers.

This has happened to me a couple times. ....it was nice. As for other players and playing side missions, I simply go to the section of the map where players are either scarce or non-existent. I haven't had too many problems with others interfering with my missions to be honest. If players are evenly spaced in the game world, I'll only take missions that have to do with kidnapping, NPC elimination, etc. I will avoid repossessions, mail runs, etc. if I feel the risk is too great.

Yeah, they really limited what vendors will pay for compared to the campaign. To be honest, I don't know who will take those things. Doctors will take herbs, fences will take jewelry and such but I really don't know who (if anyone) will take tonics.

I have a Posse group here on RDR2.org if you're looking for folks to play with in RDO: I also have a Community on PSN named "Red Dead Redemption 2 - TeamUp" so please feel free to join on there as well if you wish. The PSN Community serves the same purpose as the RDR2.org Posse. ......to create a pool of mature players for us to tap into when playing RDO. While I'm in the U.S. myself (West coast), we do have a few folks from the UK as well. My PSN name is the same as my forum name so feel free to send me an invite if you like. This invite is for anyone who is on PS4 and is looking for co-op partners to mitigate the issue of griefing, do missions, collect hides, etc.

......this is a recruitment sub-forum. This topic would be better suited for the general forum. With that aside, I don't get these threads asking griefers to explain their actions. It's obvious why they do it and even if it isn't, discussions like these only end up being toxic because trolls will be trolls whether that's in a game or in a forum. There are already a couple example of this. Maybe they like provoking people? Maybe they can't stand other people having fun? Maybe they like the power they feel in the game (perhaps due to a lack of control they feel over their own lives)? Maybe they got (or still get) bullied and want to take it out on someone? It's all really a moot point as the result is the same. .....they will grief and like doing it regardless of the reason. IMO your best bet is to continue to share your feedback with R* and find a group of friends you can play with. ....speaking of which, R* has already mentioned that new anti-griefing measures are incoming so we'll have to see how that helps the gameplay. If you need someone to join up with, look me up. I'm on PS4 as well and have a PSN Community (along with a Posse here). Just folks looking to play co-op with others and protect one another from griefers. I would also encourage you to block and report players who troll you. The block function works through the PSN option and the report feature is within the game itself (there is one for "disruptive behavior"). Since I've been blocking people, I have yet to come across someone I have already added to my list so I'll continue to do it until I find it doesn't work.

I like my AA a little weak because I absolutely hate the instant lock-on to targets that are not close to my aim. Makes the game much less challenging IMO and less fun (for me). .....but when PvP'ers and trolls are taking full advantage of it, my choices become a severe handicap. I'm ok with that though as I don't like the PvP events anyhow and have been able to hold my own with most griefers. If there was a way to save and change between setups, I would likely have one that favored AA much more than my current setting for those PvP/troll situations.

.......likely an Easter egg than a spoiler IMO from (as mentioned) RDR1.

Well, feel free to send me an invite if you'd like someone to play with. I'm over 50 myself so I guess you can call me "mature". lol Most of my PSN friends are older as well. We usually just like playing side missions and doing activities for money / XP. .....or whatever folks in the party need. I'm not really into the PvP matches. Too chaotic and twitchy for me. I'm on most nights from @ 8PM for a couple hours or more depending on who's around (U.S.; PST).

Had fun with @tyemax2 and another old PSN friend last night even though we got trolled by a group that followed us to a second session. Easy enough to ignore though and now I'm 50 XP away from lvl 31 and Express ammo. ....whoo hoo.

When dealing with randoms, things will always be way more unpredictable and therefore likely more difficult to find what you're looking for. You can view all posses in a session and look for those that are open and honorable if you wish. .....but just be aware that when dealing with randoms that is no guarantee as to how the group will act. The leader can still kick you out, other members can troll you, etc. Your best bet is to find friends to play with. Join one of the RDR2.org posses and/or a PSN Community. I've found a few PSN friends that way. The problem with meeting new people I find is that many folks tend to be a little shy when mingling. They join the groups but then hardly socialize if at all. I get it though as they are likely just unsure. Either way, the more people in a group, the better your chances are of finding folks you can play with on a regular basis. Not everyone has the same playstyle preferences. Even personalities, time differences, etc. can clash. ......but that's fine. The trick is finding the players you can ultimately synch with and that can only happen if you begin to mingle and become more active in groups, etc.

I see you confirmed you're on PS4. Here's the info I mentioned earlier.... A link to the RDR2.org Posse page for our group: I also have a Community on PSN named "Red Dead Redemption 2 - TeamUp" so please feel free to join on there as well if you wish.

It's nothing new and hardly a deterrent IMO/IME. This is not a result of any new anti griefing measures R* discussed in their last beta update.

I posted exactly what they said in their last response on the concern but here are the two official statements: The first.... ....and then a follow up statement that I quoted in part in my earlier response: Anything else is speculation. https://www.rockstargames.com/newswire/tags/716?page=2

Feel free to add me if you want. I also have a group in the posse forum and a PSN Community you're welcome to join. My PSN name is the same as my forum name. I'm over 50 btw so I guess that's mature enough.

Yeah, the bolt action has been a waste for me.