James Hickok_1837 Posted May 16, 2019 Share Posted May 16, 2019 I was looking so forward to this - playing poker in rdro but seems to me i cant. There are poker tables in saloons but empty , now way to sit down, and no poker chips on map. Seems to me my stupid country didnt let poker to be implemented. I mean CMON how stupid can this be. The law in my STUPID country says there can be no gambling online using real currency (the goverment was supposed to open goverment sites but they didnt ....). RDRO does not use real currency in poker but it seems they banned it anyway ... HOW STUPID CAN THIS BE ?!?!?! Im soooooo frustrated. Anyone else have this issue? Is there a list of banned countries somwhere? I cant find any? THIS SUCKS !!!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harlock1796 Posted May 16, 2019 Share Posted May 16, 2019 That does suck. If there was any suggestion it was real currency, the UK wouldn't allow it either (without R* jumping through some really significant online gaming rules, at least). What country are you in, if you don't mind me asking? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bravo6 Posted May 16, 2019 Share Posted May 16, 2019 (edited) Hej w moim głupim kraju w Polsce też nie mam pokera niestety tak na to czekałem .Niedługo zabronią polować na bobry w RDO bo w Polsce są pod ochroną Edited May 16, 2019 by Bravo6 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kean_1 Posted May 16, 2019 Share Posted May 16, 2019 I would suggest those who are being blocked contact R* Support for clarification. I couldn't find anything on the subject unfortunately although I wouldn't be surprised if an article pops up about it at some point. Here's a link to the Support site: https://support.rockstargames.com/categories/115001624507 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
James Hickok_1837 Posted May 16, 2019 Author Share Posted May 16, 2019 (edited) 5 hours ago, Harlock1796 said: That does suck. If there was any suggestion it was real currency, the UK wouldn't allow it either (without R* jumping through some really significant online gaming rules, at least). What country are you in, if you don't mind me asking? Poland. Damn it really sucks beeing excluded like this...... EDIT - why didnt they ban the story mode poker than ...... it doesnt make sense...... no real currency in play EDIT 2 - Is there a way to bypass this>? buy a foreign console and game ? will it suffice or not ? Anyone know? Edited May 16, 2019 by James Hickok_1837 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jackalope_Jill Posted May 16, 2019 Share Posted May 16, 2019 11 minutes ago, James Hickok_1837 said: EDIT - why didnt they ban the story mode poker than ...... it doesnt make sense...... no real currency in play Maybe it's because in RDO you're playing with real people, so it must be more to it than real/fake currency, maybe... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
James Hickok_1837 Posted May 16, 2019 Author Share Posted May 16, 2019 (edited) 4 minutes ago, Jackalope_Jill said: Maybe it's because in RDO you're playing with real people, so it must be more to it than real/fake currency, maybe... OMFG its The Himalaians of stupidity . Poland, country where you can buy alcohol and drugs in every corner every time of day and night , ciggaretes and stuff but no you cant play damn poker in online game without using real currency .. Please shoot me ...... Edited May 16, 2019 by James Hickok_1837 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jackalope_Jill Posted May 16, 2019 Share Posted May 16, 2019 (edited) 23 minutes ago, James Hickok_1837 said: OMFG its The Himalaians of stupidity . Poland, country where you can buy alcohol in every corner every time of day and night , ciggaretes and stuff but no you cant play damn poker in online game without using real currency .. Please shoot me ...... Yeah, I was curious about Poland and gambling, so I did some research. I think it has nothing to do with gambling itself; I think the reason has to do with RDO being an International company and Poland has strict laws that try to make it tougher for international companies to enter the market there. Gambling is legal there and there are sites in Poland where you can gamble using Polish gambling companies who have acquired Polish licenses. I'm sure this has to do with R* being an international entity and therefore much stricter policies/laws are in place . Currently, I read that Poland is now allowing (2015) foreign remote gambling websites/operators to apply for licenses --the question is how easily accessible are these licenses and would R* need to acquire a license because they aren't entirely a gambling operator, you know? Maybe R* is looking into this with countries like Poland. R* has to have 'sub-agencies' or departments that handle localization logistics of that country, respectfully. Edited May 16, 2019 by Jackalope_Jill Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Madrigalian Posted May 16, 2019 Share Posted May 16, 2019 2 hours ago, Jackalope_Jill said: Currently, I read that Poland is now allowing (2015) foreign remote gambling websites/operators to apply for licenses --the question is how easily accessible are these licenses and would R* need to acquire a license because they aren't entirely a gambling operator, you know? Poland just wants to make sure that the "Govner" gets their fair share of the proceeds. "Licensing = Extortion" R* sees no profit in playing ball with licensing fees for fake gambling. /shrug Hopefully, they keep trying to clarify... not real money! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jackalope_Jill Posted May 16, 2019 Share Posted May 16, 2019 2 minutes ago, Madrigalian said: Poland just wants to make sure that the "Govner" gets their fair share of the proceeds. "Licensing = Extortion" R* sees no profit in playing ball with licensing fees for fake gambling. /shrug Hopefully, they keep trying to clarify... not real money! Yeah, I kinda have to agree, I don't think R* would expend much energy into licensing fake gambling overseas, especially if the procedure for licensing is not easily accessible --or if Poland considers fake gambling still a form of gambling and therefore an entity would still need licensure. I'm not familiar with the politics in Poland but my guess is that this has nothing to do with the morality of gambling but rather keeping revenue flowing within Poland's boundaries, so to speak, and their ways of handling this situation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pluck3 Posted May 17, 2019 Share Posted May 17, 2019 18 hours ago, James Hickok_1837 said: I was looking so forward to this - playing poker in rdro but seems to me i cant. There are poker tables in saloons but empty , now way to sit down, and no poker chips on map. Seems to me my stupid country didnt let poker to be implemented. I mean CMON how stupid can this be. The law in my STUPID country says there can be no gambling online using real currency (the goverment was supposed to open goverment sites but they didnt ....). RDRO does not use real currency in poker but it seems they banned it anyway ... HOW STUPID CAN THIS BE ?!?!?! Im soooooo frustrated. Anyone else have this issue? Is there a list of banned countries somwhere? I cant find any? THIS SUCKS !!!!!! i believe if you change your country residence into ur psn account u should be able to play. like using a VPN anid creating account Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
James Hickok_1837 Posted May 17, 2019 Author Share Posted May 17, 2019 12 hours ago, Jackalope_Jill said: Currently, I read that Poland is now allowing (2015) foreign remote gambling websites/operators to apply for licenses They say they are but not doing a thing about it. They recently opened auction and still waiting to emerge the operator for gambling sites. I can only hope someday it will be implemented. I feel like kinda worse sort player beeing excluded from content. Or try this "change your country residence into ur psn account" but first i have to learn what this means exactly Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DylBandit Posted May 17, 2019 Share Posted May 17, 2019 I would be very upset if I couldn't play poker in the game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
James Hickok_1837 Posted May 17, 2019 Author Share Posted May 17, 2019 23 minutes ago, DylBandit said: I would be very upset if I couldn't play poker in the game. That is exactly what i feel....... im furious. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DylBandit Posted May 17, 2019 Share Posted May 17, 2019 6 minutes ago, James Hickok_1837 said: That is exactly what i feel....... im furious. Hopefully in the future you will be able to have poker implemented into the game for you to play. Make there's a way for you to get an American version of the game or something. Not sure if that would do anything because you would be linked to a Poland server outside of America. But hey, you never know. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Madrigalian Posted May 17, 2019 Share Posted May 17, 2019 There have been rumors floating around that if you know how to get your PS4 routed through a VPN server you can bypass local/regional restrictions. Don't know if that's true, and I have no clue how to set up VPN for a gaming console. But I thought I would throw it out there for those who may want to look into it. Good Luck! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
James Hickok_1837 Posted May 18, 2019 Author Share Posted May 18, 2019 I have asked R* support about the issue in my country and the response is as follows : Hello, Thank you for contacting Rockstar Support. We are sorry for problems with access to poker in RDO. We regret to inform you that the availability of Poker in Red Dead Online is dependent on regional laws and regulations in your country. Poker at Red Dead Online may not be available to certain players due to your country of residence. At this moment, unfortunately, we do not have information on whether this element of the game will be available in the future. We apologize for any inconvenience that may arise from this fact. Sincerely, Monika N. Rockstar Support | Degree 2. So yeah looks bad. I am thinking about changing the region i am in with my Microsoft account. Maybe this will work. Unfortunatelly i think ill have to buy a EN copy of the game and will loose my character (start from beggining). If that would work tho i would do it. Shame to loose 127 lvls but it will be fun to play all over again. Anyone know if this will work ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Melizmator Posted May 18, 2019 Share Posted May 18, 2019 Jedyny sposób to VPN i proxy , albo wyprowadzić się, gra z innego regionu nic nie zmieni robiłem konto na inny region to samo, IP blokuje 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lucio Posted May 18, 2019 Share Posted May 18, 2019 On 5/16/2019 at 11:47 AM, James Hickok_1837 said: I was looking so forward to this - playing poker in rdro but seems to me i cant. There are poker tables in saloons but empty , now way to sit down, and no poker chips on map. Seems to me my stupid country didnt let poker to be implemented. I mean CMON how stupid can this be. The law in my STUPID country says there can be no gambling online using real currency (the goverment was supposed to open goverment sites but they didnt ....). RDRO does not use real currency in poker but it seems they banned it anyway ... HOW STUPID CAN THIS BE ?!?!?! Im soooooo frustrated. Anyone else have this issue? Is there a list of banned countries somwhere? I cant find any? THIS SUCKS !!!!!! i know is stupid to ban this poker bullsh*t its fake money but at least you know why you cant play what if i told you that my country online gambling is perfectly legal and still cant play poker on rdro 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewsBot Posted May 20, 2019 Share Posted May 20, 2019 Red Dead Online recently received a major update which signaled the end of the beta period. Among the new features was a wave of new story missions, a new showdown mode, anti-griefing measures and - arguably the most celebrated addition - poker. However, this new feature is seemingly blocked in a few countries due to local laws. Players have been clamoring for the addition of poker to Red Dead Online ever since the game was released. Since poker was present in the single player portion of the game, it seemed like an odd omission. Now that the feature has been added, the reason why it took so long may be clearer. While many players are busy hitting the cards in Red Dead Online already, many others have found that feature was seemingly missing. When visiting one of the five locations that allows players to gamble with one another, no option to play poker is available. Initially, this was thought to be a bug before Rockstar Support clarified the issue. Poker in Red Dead Online isn't available in certain countries which do not allow online betting and gambling. While poker can only be played with RDO$ and not Gold, meaning real money doesn't factor into it in any way, this isn't enough for some countries. The task of untangling the laws of all the places Red Dead Online is available likely took a lot of time, which is why the feature wasn't added before now. We are sorry to let you know that the availability of Poker in Red Dead Online is dependent on regional laws and regulations and may not be available to all players. In short, poker won’t be available in countries where online gambling is restricted or illegal. We apologize if this had caused any inconvenience. - Rockstar Support With real money not being involved at all, the question of why the minigame was allowed to be present in the single-player portion of the game is raised. One possible explanation is that the intricacies of the laws in question might allow simulated gambling when it is done alone and without any money involved, but if either of these requirements are not met, it's a no-go. The way these laws are handled is also an interesting factor, as sometimes it's not just a country that needs to be taken into account, but states or counties, as gambling laws aren't always centralized. Reddit user Igvan points out that poker in Red Dead Online is blocked in Argentina even though real-money online gambling is allowed. However, gambling laws aren't centralized in Argentina, so while some states allow it, others have all forms of online gambling banned. As a result, Rockstar had to disable the feature entirely for all Argentine players. Rockstar previously faced similar difficulties with the casino in GTA Online. Unlike Red Dead Online, GTA Online doesn't have two separate currencies and players can buy in-game cash with real money, which is the reason most people speculate why the casino never had any gameplay function. The post Red Dead Online Poker Disabled In Some Countries Due To Regional Laws appeared first on RDR2.org. Read the full story Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
James Hickok_1837 Posted May 21, 2019 Author Share Posted May 21, 2019 I was thinking - it would be some solution to the problem in banned countries. Maybe R* should implement poker where you could only play NPC's same like in the story mode. Would be nice to sit and play a few rounds to take a break from killing, drink a beer etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
James Hickok_1837 Posted October 17, 2019 Author Share Posted October 17, 2019 Yesterday while playing i logged in and it spawned me in Saint Denis. I looked on the map to get my bearings and i got shocked - there was a poker chip inside the saloon. i was like WTF !!!! I came in and saw the table with people playing for the first time (mstly there is just empty table). I could sit and i chose to join the game wit 25$ worth of chips. I was soo ohappy that maybe they resolved the problem with poker banned in certain countries. The game started loading and when the screen came back i was again in Saint Denis road......... Daaaaaaaamn :*( Still hope they will resolve it somehow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SimonTemplar Posted October 17, 2019 Share Posted October 17, 2019 On 5/16/2019 at 10:47 AM, James Hickok_1837 said: I was looking so forward to this - playing poker in rdro but seems to me i cant. There are poker tables in saloons but empty , now way to sit down, and no poker chips on map. Seems to me my stupid country didnt let poker to be implemented. I mean CMON how stupid can this be. The law in my STUPID country says there can be no gambling online using real currency (the goverment was supposed to open goverment sites but they didnt ....). RDRO does not use real currency in poker but it seems they banned it anyway ... HOW STUPID CAN THIS BE ?!?!?! Im soooooo frustrated. Anyone else have this issue? Is there a list of banned countries somwhere? I cant find any? THIS SUCKS !!!!!! Yes, I have run into this in a way. We're in the UK but have a house in Portugal, do a month a year there. As a sideline I do sports betting - first time I tried from Portugal, the BetFair (and others) App wouldn't load, the websites wouldn't load. At first I thought it was me, then checked an apparently online gambling is banned in Portugal. Irony is, I'm a currency trader and I can do that online in Portugal no problem. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zinussan50 Posted November 2, 2019 Share Posted November 2, 2019 (edited) I did contact rockstar about banned from poker, providing them my current location. They reply it is unavailable for my region(not country). Dont understand why in-game money cant be use to play poker. But in astonishing twist, i am able to access all gambling in gta online casino. While the game allowed to use real money to buy chips for gambling. Edited November 2, 2019 by zinussan50 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KVNknowsbest Posted November 3, 2019 Share Posted November 3, 2019 10 hours ago, zinussan50 said: I did contact rockstar about banned from poker, providing them my current location. They reply it is unavailable for my region(not country). Dont understand why in-game money cant be use to play poker. But in astonishing twist, i am able to access all gambling in gta online casino. While the game allowed to use real money to buy chips for gambling. I honestly don't understand Rockstar's logic here. I know that gambling is not something they want in video games because it can be used in the real sense but the game is meant for adults and most countries allow people to gamble by the age of 16 or 18 anyways. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kean_1 Posted November 3, 2019 Share Posted November 3, 2019 2 minutes ago, KVNknowsbest said: I honestly don't understand Rockstar's logic here. I know that gambling is not something they want in video games because it can be used in the real sense but the game is meant for adults and most countries allow people to gamble by the age of 16 or 18 anyways. The restriction has nothing to do with Rockstar not wanting to release certain features like this in some countries and everything to due with local laws / regulations. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KVNknowsbest Posted November 3, 2019 Share Posted November 3, 2019 2 minutes ago, Kean_1 said: The restriction has nothing to do with Rockstar not wanting to release certain features like this in some countries and everything to due with local laws / regulations. Oh, right. I tend to separate the two. I mean there really isn't much you can't do in a video game in the US so that is likely why I never understood it or made sense of it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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