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I can see this happening but how would Arthur die?

I mean they can really make this good too. Maybe have John kill him... Or even throw Abagail in the mix and have her shoot him to get John free. Maybe Arthur sides with John on something and Dutch kills him. Man... So many possibilities! 

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On 5/5/2018 at 1:30 PM, Benjo said:

The fact he's not in RDR1 would hint that Arthur dies in this one. I say hint because he could have died in between RDR2 and RDR1. 

Could easily just go on the run like John did. Then again... Dutch likely would have hunted him down too. He doesn't seem the type either. I think John kills him for some reason and then you end up going on the lamb as John. 

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I like this and I can see it happening. I just hope they go about it the right way. I don't need to to be a long-winded cutscene but I want the switch to be impacting and telling of John's life pre-RDR.

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On 5/5/2018 at 4:56 AM, Benjo said:

RDR1: John Marston dies. You continue to play as Jack.

RDR2: Arthur Morgan Dies. You continue to play as John Marston.

how bout this, just thinking out loud- the switch happens during a confrontation with both characters. John kills Arthur, but you pull the trigger, as John. You kill the character you've been the whole game.

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5 hours ago, CMcC said:

how bout this, just thinking out loud- the switch happens during a confrontation with both characters. John kills Arthur, but you pull the trigger, as John. You kill the character you've been the whole game.

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On 5/5/2018 at 12:56 PM, Benjo said:

RDR1: John Marston dies. You continue to play as Jack.

RDR2: Arthur Morgan Dies. You continue to play as John Marston.

Someone said this would happen and that you become John and build up your ranch with your family before things go awry. 

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2 hours ago, BelleStarr said:

Someone said this would happen and that you become John and build up your ranch with your family before things go awry. 

Here's the problem with this- it's very anticlimactic. Ya know? The game ends with us milking cows and feeding the chickens? Stacking hay in the barn? I'm all for a happy ending with John, we all know he needs one, but this sounds like a snoozer. Of course, maybe the last cutscene in the game is of the law riding up to house and propositioning John to go on his next adventure. Of which i hope means a re-released/remastered RDR1!

As for Arthur's pending death? One theory I have is we switch to playing John and shoot at kill Arthur in an attempt to leave the gang. However, maybe that's a little predictable. So now I'm wondering if Dutch will be the one to do Arthur in. He kills his right hand, the man he took in as a boy and more or less raised. There's the emotional ending. There's the beginning of his decent into madness. Who know's? Can't wait to find out!

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38 minutes ago, CMcC said:

Here's the problem with this- it's very anticlimactic. Ya know? The game ends with us milking cows and feeding the chickens? Stacking hay in the barn? I'm all for a happy ending with John, we all know he needs one, but this sounds like a snoozer.

It's no different than how they left the last one. I mean, what could you do with Jack other than ride around? The climax of story mode would be Arthur's death, leaving you to play the rest of the open world as John.

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32 minutes ago, Benjo said:

It's no different than how they left the last one. I mean, what could you do with Jack other than ride around? The climax of story mode would be Arthur's death, leaving you to play the rest of the open world as John.

Right on. I see your point. That makes sense.  And so the rest of the open world is building up the ranch, yeah? That I can see. 

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9 minutes ago, CMcC said:

Right on. I see your point. That makes sense.  And so the rest of the open world is building up the ranch, yeah? That I can see. 

Also, that would make me very happy.

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48 minutes ago, Benjo said:

Also, that would make me very happy.

Agreed. I'd like to see a happy ending for John. Though we know it won't last. Its like watching Vincent Vega walk out of the restaurant at the end Pulp Fiction. There's a sigh of relief as that situation diffuses and they leave, but we know what's in store for him. 

 

P.S  If I've at all spoiled the end of the movie for you, it's your own damn fault for never seeing it!

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5 hours ago, CMcC said:

Here's the problem with this- it's very anticlimactic. Ya know? The game ends with us milking cows and feeding the chickens? Stacking hay in the barn? I'm all for a happy ending with John, we all know he needs one, but this sounds like a snoozer. Of course, maybe the last cutscene in the game is of the law riding up to house and propositioning John to go on his next adventure. Of which i hope means a re-released/remastered RDR1!

As for Arthur's pending death? One theory I have is we switch to playing John and shoot at kill Arthur in an attempt to leave the gang. However, maybe that's a little predictable. So now I'm wondering if Dutch will be the one to do Arthur in. He kills his right hand, the man he took in as a boy and more or less raised. There's the emotional ending. There's the beginning of his decent into madness. Who know's? Can't wait to find out!

Yeah that's a good point. It will be interesting to see the ending they have chosen for it.

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On ‎5‎/‎6‎/‎2018 at 3:40 PM, Purple Cactus said:

Could easily just go on the run like John did. Then again... Dutch likely would have hunted him down too. He doesn't seem the type either. I think John kills him for some reason and then you end up going on the lamb as John. 

Dutch didn't hunt Marston down, it was the other way around.  Considering where Dutch's camp was and where Marston made his home.  Dutch could have gotten him pretty easy.

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Could end with Arthur starting with what Marston finished.   Have Arthur lead Ross and Fordham to the hill above Beechers Hope, showing them where Marston is, only to have Ross and Fordham shoot him down in cold blood.  At that point you take over as Marston with the Ross and Fordham riding up to you on your property.

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I would hate to have to play the entire game as Arthur for him to just be killed off. They have done this too many times already. Aren't there any other ways around this where Arthur maybe moves up North or something? 

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5 hours ago, tadp0le said:

I would hate to have to play the entire game as Arthur for him to just be killed off. They have done this too many times already. Aren't there any other ways around this where Arthur maybe moves up North or something? 

At this point, it certainly is expected isn't it?- that he'll die. Which I'm okay with, but i don't think will have nearly the impact it did with Marston. I'm becoming more and more on the fence about whether or not he goes down for the dirt nap. The predictability is what's got me thinking. Will Rockstar kill off their protagonist...again? I don't know. But why else do you fail to mention him in the next chapter? If he's still alive, where the hell is he? It's completely possible that he get's away. Maybe it's likely. Maybe Rockstar isn't as concerned with this as us dorks are. 

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17 hours ago, tadp0le said:

I would hate to have to play the entire game as Arthur for him to just be killed off. They have done this too many times already. Aren't there any other ways around this where Arthur maybe moves up North or something? 

There was cases that some outlaws of the old west became lawmen.  Maybe Arthur will get approached to be lawman some where, seeing how the map is bigger.  That's not the way Rockstar does these games, but it would be a change of pace.

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Thing is, we're not questioning why any of the other gang members weren't in RDR1. Like the blonde haired girl (forget her name), where is she?

Just because AM isn't in RDR1 doesn't necessarily mean he ends up in the ground. 

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Since we got a bit more of a taste with the latest trailer, I have a feeling it is going to go down like this:

As Arthur, you will be split between good and evil. The more good you are, you will be given a more "moral" ending. The more bad you are, you will be given a more "immoral" ending. So the "good" ending would be you helping Marston escape. The "bad" ending would be you trying to kill him. Just a thought. 

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On 5/21/2018 at 7:47 AM, CMcC said:

I'm wondering if Dutch will be the one to do Arthur in. He kills his right hand, the man he took in as a boy and more or less raised. There's the emotional ending. There's the beginning of his decent into madness. Who know's? Can't wait to find out!

I still think this is an interesting idea. A good twist. But maybe he doesn't die at all. Killing off the main character has been done. It's a bit tired and predictable. Maybe with this one we get a happy ending.

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3 hours ago, D3x said:

Since we got a bit more of a taste with the latest trailer, I have a feeling it is going to go down like this:

As Arthur, you will be split between good and evil. The more good you are, you will be given a more "moral" ending. The more bad you are, you will be given a more "immoral" ending. So the "good" ending would be you helping Marston escape. The "bad" ending would be you trying to kill him. Just a thought. 

Do you think there will be more than one ending? I am not sure if they will do that in this game but you could be on to something there. Would make you want to play through the game twice as well to see which other things you can do. I am guessing if you are "too good" then you won't be able to do as many dirty missions. 

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On 5/5/2018 at 8:56 AM, Benjo said:

RDR1: John Marston dies. You continue to play as Jack.

RDR2: Arthur Morgan Dies. You continue to play as John Marston.

I was thinking the same thing. Arthur, Marston, Uncle and some others against Dutch, Bill W and Javier Escuella. Arthur dies and then you play as Marston, getting Dutch and company on the run

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I've done some more thinking on this. It's been a while since I played RDR1 storymode but doesn't it start with John at Bonnie's ranch immediately after the "left for dead" event?

My guess would be that RDR2 story will lead up to that and include it, so continuing to play as John wouldn't make sense, as that would take you straight into RDR1's storyline.

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On ‎8‎/‎10‎/‎2018 at 9:58 PM, FLIP said:

Do you think there will be more than one ending? I am not sure if they will do that in this game but you could be on to something there. Would make you want to play through the game twice as well to see which other things you can do. I am guessing if you are "too good" then you won't be able to do as many dirty missions. 

There was with GTA 5.

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6 hours ago, Benjo said:

I've done some more thinking on this. It's been a while since I played RDR1 storymode but doesn't it start with John at Bonnie's ranch immediately after the "left for dead" event?

My guess would be that RDR2 story will lead up to that and include it, so continuing to play as John wouldn't make sense, as that would take you straight into RDR1's storyline.

Not necessarily, it may lead upto the point where John gets his ranch, tries to start a life with his family, and then the law comes and convinces him to aid them in pursuing the old gang. 

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On 5/5/2018 at 6:56 AM, Benjo said:

RDR1: John Marston dies. You continue to play as Jack.

RDR2: Arthur Morgan Dies. You continue to play as John Marston.

That was actually the first thing I thought of when I saw the main character wasn't Marston. I think you're right. And the story probably ends when John is shot and "left for dead" by Dutch, Bill Williamson, and Javier Escuela. 

6 hours ago, Benjo said:

I've done some more thinking on this. It's been a while since I played RDR1 storymode but doesn't it start with John at Bonnie's ranch immediately after the "left for dead" event?

My guess would be that RDR2 story will lead up to that and include it, so continuing to play as John wouldn't make sense, as that would take you straight into RDR1's storyline.

Nope. It starts with John approaching the fort where Bill Williamson is holed-up, trying to convince him to let him in. They discuss Williamson, Escuela and Dutch leaving Marston for dead. Marston takes an aggressive step forward, and one of Williamson's men shoots John in the ribs.  He passes out, then wakes up at the MacFarlane Ranch. 

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