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No spoilers, just some new information. It's been confirmed that Arthur cannot see prostitutes or engage in any sexual activity in the game. I wasn't bothered by any of the other information (like clipping of objects), but this I have to admit is a let down. This is a game where you HAVE to eat and sleep, change your clothes based on the weather, feed and look after your horse, etc. Horses dynamically crap, their testicles shrivel dynamically, animals decompose dynamically, and there are over 80 pages of dialogue for each NPC...

And yet they drew the line at sex. Arthur Morgan, your Wild West outlaw, can butcher entire towns and settlements, but will never be able to visit a brothel. Figures.

It made sense for John. But for Arthur? Nah. I'm still hyped for the game, but I gotta admit I don't appreciate that they purposefully kept this from the game. It's not like it was an oversight. The game has dynamic horse pooping. This was intentionally omitted from the game. A Rockstar game. Potentially the only Wild West game of this caliber that will ever exist and your outlaw can never have sex. Murder indiscriminately, sure. Sex, nah. That's too much.

I don't know if you can tell -- I'm pretty salty right now.

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1 minute ago, Aimesleje said:

No spoilers, just some new information. It's been confirmed that Arthur cannot see prostitutes or engage in any sexual activity in the game. I wasn't bothered by any of the other information (like clipping of objects), but this I have to admit is a let down. This is a game where you HAVE to eat and sleep, change your clothes based on the weather, feed and look after your horse, etc. Horses dynamically crap, their testicles shrivel dynamically, animals decompose dynamically, and there are over 80 pages of dialogue for each NPC...

And yet they drew the line at sex. Arthur Morgan, your Wild West outlaw, can butcher entire towns and settlements, but will never be able to visit a brothel. Figures.

It made sense for John. But for Arthur? Nah. I'm still hyped for the game, but I gotta admit I don't appreciate that they purposefully kept this from the game. It's not like it was an oversight. The game has dynamic horse pooping. This was intentionally omitted from the game. A Rockstar game. Potentially the only Wild West game of this caliber that will ever exist and your outlaw can never have sex. Murder indiscriminately, sure. Sex, nah. That's too much.

I don't know if you can tell -- I'm pretty salty right now.

Having sex in the game or not doesn't really bother me, It never really caught my interest even in Grand Theft Auto. I guess its just something I'm not to concerned about while playing games. 

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33 minutes ago, Aimesleje said:

No spoilers, just some new information. It's been confirmed that Arthur cannot see prostitutes or engage in any sexual activity in the game. I wasn't bothered by any of the other information (like clipping of objects), but this I have to admit is a let down. This is a game where you HAVE to eat and sleep, change your clothes based on the weather, feed and look after your horse, etc. Horses dynamically crap, their testicles shrivel dynamically, animals decompose dynamically, and there are over 80 pages of dialogue for each NPC...

And yet they drew the line at sex. Arthur Morgan, your Wild West outlaw, can butcher entire towns and settlements, but will never be able to visit a brothel. Figures.

It made sense for John. But for Arthur? Nah. I'm still hyped for the game, but I gotta admit I don't appreciate that they purposefully kept this from the game. It's not like it was an oversight. The game has dynamic horse pooping. This was intentionally omitted from the game. A Rockstar game. Potentially the only Wild West game of this caliber that will ever exist and your outlaw can never have sex. Murder indiscriminately, sure. Sex, nah. That's too much.

I don't know if you can tell -- I'm pretty salty right now.

After the whole "Coffee" incident with GTA San Andreas.  I can see why they wouldn't.  I can see your point, but as I said in another thread.  To me it isn't needed for the game.  I won't say Rockstar is a family friendly, but with our society being as sensitive as is about this kind of topic.  I am sure that is a fight they don't want to have.

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1 hour ago, DylBandit said:

Having sex in the game or not doesn't really bother me, It never really caught my interest even in Grand Theft Auto. I guess its just something I'm not to concerned about while playing games. 

Yeah, sex in RDR2 was nowhere even on my check list of things I would have wanted.  ....wouldn't care if it was in there either but certainly could care less that it isn't.  

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If I’m honest, yeah, it’s a little strange it’s not in the game. Not something I was looking forward to but I’m surprised it’s not a feature. I mean, Jesus, it’s being hailed as the most realistic game ever made and our outlaw can’t visit a brothel? The horses’ balls know what temperature it is! 

Again, not needed, certainly. But why not include it? Because it’s too risqué? We’re dismembering bodies in a slow motion cam, we can’t show Arthur walking into a room with a pretty lady and hear some birds and bees? 

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Like others, it's not something I really need in the game, but would make sense to have it.  A lot of outlaws are usually depicted frequenting brothels, and since it was in GTA, if Rockstar is going for realism, it seems odd that they would leave it out.  It could still come late in some DLC.

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1 hour ago, KRooKeD KRoW said:

Like others, it's not something I really need in the game, but would make sense to have it.  A lot of outlaws are usually depicted frequenting brothels, and since it was in GTA, if Rockstar is going for realism, it seems odd that they would leave it out.  It could still come late in some DLC.

Yeah possibly, but I don't think its a major concern at this point in time. 

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4 hours ago, CMcC said:

If I’m honest, yeah, it’s a little strange it’s not in the game. Not something I was looking forward to but I’m surprised it’s not a feature. I mean, Jesus, it’s being hailed as the most realistic game ever made and our outlaw can’t visit a brothel? The horses’ balls know what temperature it is! 

Again, not needed, certainly. But why not include it? Because it’s too risqué? We’re dismembering bodies in a slow motion cam, we can’t show Arthur walking into a room with a pretty lady and hear some birds and bees? 

Thank you! To be honest, it's not just the brothels I feel it's lacking. It's romance in general -- outside of the main story that is. There are so many npcs and interesting characters, hell, Arthur's an interesting character. I wasn't expecting the pornographic GTA 5 sex scenes (well... maybe I was), but, I was certainly expecting some form of romance to give depth to the character and his journeys.

I mean, the outlaw can't ever fall in love with a maiden in a town in the middle of nowhere? It just seems like wasted potential. Here's this giant romantic world (by definition, the scenery being as beautiful as it is), and your character is forever alone. All you really have the option of doing is being a Lone Ranger. I get a lot of people don't necessarily need it, but it's a noticeable exclusion from the game none the less. It wasn't forgotten, it was left out.

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13 minutes ago, Aimesleje said:

Thank you! To be honest, it's not just the brothels I feel it's lacking. It's romance in general -- outside of the main story that is. There are so many npcs and interesting characters, hell, Arthur's an interesting character. I wasn't expecting the pornographic GTA 5 sex scenes (well... maybe I was), but, I was certainly expecting some form of romance to give depth to the character and his journeys.

I mean, the outlaw can't ever fall in love with a maiden in a town in the middle of nowhere? It just seems like wasted potential. Here's this giant romantic world (by definition, the scenery being as beautiful as it is), and your character is forever alone. All you really have the option of doing is being a Lone Ranger. I get a lot of people don't necessarily need it, but it's a noticeable exclusion from the game none the less. It wasn't forgotten, it was left out.

Yeah I get what you mean. 

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7 hours ago, Aimesleje said:

Thank you! To be honest, it's not just the brothels I feel it's lacking. It's romance in general -- outside of the main story that is. There are so many npcs and interesting characters, hell, Arthur's an interesting character. I wasn't expecting the pornographic GTA 5 sex scenes (well... maybe I was), but, I was certainly expecting some form of romance to give depth to the character and his journeys.

I mean, the outlaw can't ever fall in love with a maiden in a town in the middle of nowhere? It just seems like wasted potential. Here's this giant romantic world (by definition, the scenery being as beautiful as it is), and your character is forever alone. All you really have the option of doing is being a Lone Ranger. I get a lot of people don't necessarily need it, but it's a noticeable exclusion from the game none the less. It wasn't forgotten, it was left out.

1st off, you shouldn't consider sex and romance as the same thing.  For some of us older guys who have been married a long time.  Some days just touching your partners hand is nothing sexual.  It is pure statement in your actions that you love them and you got their back.  Not saying one can't be a sign of the other, but in this day and age not all people see sex as romance.  Many cases they see it more as notch on their bed posts, then building something long lasting.

2nd, what makes you think that Arthur won't have love interest?

3rd,  I don't know this but maybe Arthur's life doesn't have love in it.  Maybe he is the kind of person that has no need to settle down or fall in love.  Maybe he is a warrior that lives and dies by the sword.  Then again I know grown adults, never married, never dated, they are very happy living solo in their lives.  They don't want the drama that comes from being in a romantic relationship.

4th.  Last, I don't see what a persons need to go to a brothel is required.  Our character is an outlaw, who most likely takes what they want, regardless whether or not the other person wants give consent.  Even a brothel, if history serves me correctly, many times the ladies there wasn't doing it cause that's how they wanted to spend their days and nights, it wasn't a job, it was survival.  It wasn't glorious.  It wasn't romantic. 

So unless someone has already played all 60 hours and proven that in the end game, that Arthur doesn't find happiness.  We don't know if he doesn't find romance.  We don't know what kind a character he turns out to be.  I am sure there will be videos out on YouTube within the day or so showing all the possible endings. 

 

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America is a prudish nation compared with most other western/first world nations.  Facebook and Twitter ban masterpiece nude paintings because there's a nipple or two on the loose and yet they show people shooting other people in the face.

It's a bit back to front in my view but generally what happens when you let religion control politics.

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14 hours ago, CMcC said:

Again, not needed, certainly. But why not include it? Because it’s too risqué?

Just think of it this way, the time the would've spent making those sex scenes (and all the extra animations and other bullsh*t they would have to code), was instead spent on:

 

14 hours ago, CMcC said:

dismembering bodies in a slow motion cam

and I'm okay with that. I can see/have sex anytime, I'll never be able to chop some dude up in slow mo...

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18 minutes ago, Truth said:

Just think of it this way, the time the would've spent making those sex scenes (and all the extra animations and other bullsh*t they would have to code), was instead spent on:

 

and I'm okay with that. I can see/have sex anytime, I'll never be able to chop some dude up in slow mo...

A game should be reflecting real life so unless you're a priest or a big, fat loner, sex should be part of that storytelling.

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6 minutes ago, Jota said:

A game should be reflecting real life so unless you're a priest or a big, fat loner, sex should be part of that storytelling.

Why does it have to be part of the story telling?  How would that change the game's ending? 

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6 minutes ago, Jota said:

A game should be reflecting real life

Maybe THIS game, I wouldn't say that as a blanket statement though. I'm not saying it shouldn't be in the game, I'm saying there are more important things to worry about. I'd rather them put more focus into the things I'm going to do often in the game. I'd MAYBE visit a brothel once, I plan on killing A LOT of people (in the game).

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For me, I don't really equate sex in video games to brothels and prostitutes.

Honestly, if they want to do an implied sex scene -- something like, a woman you've been courting for some time sits down with you by the fire, then a kiss, then she gets up and closes/locks a door (that the camera's behind) -- I'm all for that. That's emotion and connection, and gives you the implication of a romantic night together without being graphic.

The Bond films did that very well: sensual, but never nudity or graphic scenes.

I think making a romantic connection with characters would greatly help with immersion. I'd like that a ton more than the camera following Arthur into a prostitute's room in the second floor of a saloon for a quick boink.

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14 minutes ago, Cokeyskunk said:

Honestly, if they want to do an implied sex scene -- something like, a woman you've been courting for some time sits down with you by the fire, then a kiss, then she gets up and closes/locks a door (that the camera's behind) 

This is all I would want it to be. That could easily be a harlot too. You go to the brothel and drop 20 bucks on a roll in the hay up stairs. She takes you into the room, quick cut scene of a shirt coming off or something tame and then it’s over- with health regenerated. 

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I think certain people take people's indifference or lack of desire for this content to be in their games as somehow being prudish.  Personally, it does nothing for me in games.  ....it did nothing for me in titles like the Witcher 3.  

I can't believe this is even an "issue" of concern due to it lacking in a game but c 'est la vie.  Different "strokes" for different folks I guess.  😏

All I know is that the game is great so far and I'm having a blast playing it.  .....sex or no sex.

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Other gang members use prostitutes in the story, but the one encounter we have with them in the story we insult them away.

I was kinda upset that I couldn't use brothels (still am really), but, if you go up to a hooker and press antagonize you'll hear Arthur say things so funny you'll die of laughter.

"You've probably spread more diseases than cholera"

"I'm sure you're a feller under there"

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On 10/26/2018 at 7:31 AM, YodaMan 3D said:

2nd, what makes you think that Arthur won't have love interest?

3rd,  I don't know this but maybe Arthur's life doesn't have love in it.  Maybe he is the kind of person that has no need to settle down or fall in love.  Maybe he is a warrior that lives and dies by the sword.  Then again I know grown adults, never married, never dated, they are very happy living solo in their lives.  They don't want the drama that comes from being in a romantic relationship.

 

I'm of the opinion that sex would most certainly be in this game if it wasn't for these two things you've mentioned, because in 1899, the brothel was a completely normal and legitimate business.  It wasn't necessarily the taboo we have for it today.  Reminder that some places of the old West still have legalized prostitution and brothels: Nevada.

As for a possible love interest, you can learn a lot about the character backstories simply be moseying around camp.  On Arthur's desk, there's a few pictures, one of them of some woman.  No clue who she is, but Arthur alludes to never being married once or twice, as if there's some kind of backstory.

Who knows, maybe Sadie becomes an interest?  I don't know, I'm not far enough into the game yet.

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Sorry if my first post in this forum is about Sex in RDR2 but it was this thread which led me here. I wanted to say something regarding this topic and so i registered.

I don't see a problem in not having sex in the game. Sure i would be happy if there was this option but it's a great game...with or without sex.
The problem for me is that i get offered sex in every saloon and hotel. Every Prostitute in the game wants to have a fun time with me and my only 2 Options are decline and....i dont know the english word but declining in a rude way. So when there is no need for sex why is there even an option to answer these kind of offers? That's kind of cruel.

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Gotta admit this is a huge let down, I was being sweet to one of the girls with the idea that a Romance might play out and who knows maybe i would be able to marry her, Im actually surprise to hear they didnt allow it since John was a married man banging everyone and Arthur is a single loner dude.

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