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"Switching characters made sense and was a lot of fun in Grand Theft Auto V," Josh Bass, art director at Rockstar San Diego, told The Hollywood Reporter. "Sticking with a single character felt more appropriate for the structure and narrative of a Western. Arthur lives with and fights alongside the other members of the Van der Linde gang, and they are a group of fully realized characters with relationships to each other and to Arthur, but this is Arthur’s story and we are placing players firmly in Arthur’s boots as he and the gang deal with a rapidly changing world. We think people will really love the feeling of being in the gang. It isn’t like anything we’ve done before."

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I know in the beginning, a lot of us were thinking we may be playing as multiple gang members in this one. This was partially based on GTA V's success and the knowledge of RDR2 being completely related and revolved around Dutch's gang. Knowing now that we will only be playing as Arthur, how do you feel about it?

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I’m happy its only one protag to be honest. It worked well with the story in GTA5 as each character linked up with another and you unlocked them one by one as the story progressed. In RDR they are all in the same gang, leading the same lifestyle and all know each other from the start. Plus, how many gang members are there? 15 plus? How would they determine which ones you play as? 

Anyway I ended up finding it a bit annoying switching between characters on GTA5, to find they had changed outfits or were somewhere random on the map in the middle of nowhere. 

I am actually really looking forward to playing as Arthur. I just hope we get some sort of customisation for his clothing. The clothing in RDR 1 was terrible and most of it had to be unlocked. 

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Yes I am happy there is only 1 protag, but am I 100% happy with the one they have come up with? No. I'd much prefer someone that looks more like a badass than a dad. Like Micah Bell - he struck me as a brilliant character the first time I saw him speak in the trailer as he looked like someone a bit crazy and a bit of a badass. Would have much preferred that kind of character than Arthur. 

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Yes and no.

Yes because I know the main focus will be on the views of the gang and story through Arthur's direct experiences and not anyone else's.

No because if I end up not liking or enjoying Arthur, it will greatly ruin the story for me.

I am not sure if anyone else here is like me when it comes to video games but no matter how brilliant a story is or how well a game plays, if I am forced to play a character I don't really like, it kind of takes away from the game a lot for me. There have been games I quit halfway through because I didn't care for the character I was playing as. In GTA V, I really did not like Michael at all. I don't know what it was but it pissed me off every time I had to play as him. Had he been the only character we were playing as, I likely would have quit playing halfway through the game. 

 

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I'm fine with it for the story mode, provided they have a robust customization suite for the online component.

I've never been a big fan of shifting the narrative between multiple main characters in a game.  It breaks the immersion, and it's extremely difficult to pull off without sabotaging the experience for the user.  Halo 2 was the last time it was done well, imo (I loved playing as the Arbiter, his story was fantastic).  Recent games have struggled with this for the most part.

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@BropolloCreed79 so true. And lets not forget something important: the title "red dead REDEMPTION". Redemption, even though is a universal concept, it is perceived in a different and in a unique way by each individual. Therefore, it is posible to develop a story about the search for redemption by a group of people...but you would loose immersion and could not create  empathy with different characters. 

The search for Redemption it's lonely...

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17 hours ago, MementoMori said:

Yes of course. They can focus more on the story of Arthur and make it hopefully better in that way

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1 hour ago, Cokeyskunk said:

Next, please tell us a bit about yourself by creating a new thread in the "Introduce Yourself" section:

Just don't overshare, @MementoMori.  Otherwise you end up telling people about the time you vacated your bowels in your pants at work as an adult, like I did.

Edit: gotta get that past the filter, right @Cokeyskunk?

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I'm actually very confident in R*'s ability to deliver a good product here.  I'm glad they don't simply try to mimic GTAV's components to try and create another success but actually seem to want to build a unique experience true to the RDR series.  .....at least that's the impression I get from the interviews, marketing and everything we've seen so far.

After 30+ years of gaming, I rarely fall for hype these days or anticipate that a game will be great before I actually get my hands on it, but this is different for me given R*'s track record.  I trust they will do it right and that I will enjoy the character(s), gameplay, activities, etc.

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Arthur may look like the typical soccer dad but I am sure he will have a depth to him and the fact that we get to choose to have him be more hurtful or more helpful really intrigues me. In GTA V.... I was one of the few who didn't really care for the switching stories. I mean it was different and "fun" at the beginning but just became too complex to keep up with as the game progressed.

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On 9/10/2018 at 3:16 PM, GatoNegro said:

I know in the beginning, a lot of us were thinking we may be playing as multiple gang members in this one. This was partially based on GTA V's success and the knowledge of RDR2 being completely related and revolved around Dutch's gang. Knowing now that we will only be playing as Arthur, how do you feel about it?

Call me nuts, but I don't read this as "We will only be playing as Arthur."

Ye, I suspect we'll be Arthur for most of the game (if not all), but remember in RDR1 - At the end, after John's death, you played as Jack. And there were other missions to perform.

Also, John never once mentions Arthur in RDR1. I suspect that's because he's dead in 1911.

I wouldn't be shocked to have Arthur gunned down in the beginning of the third act, and to finish up as a younger Marston. 

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2 minutes ago, Cokeyskunk said:

I wouldn't be shocked to have Arthur gunned down in the beginning of the third act, and to finish up as a younger Marston. 

I thought this at first but have since changed my mind. This topic has been discussed heavily 'ere

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Just now, Benjo said:

I thought this at first but have since changed my mind. This topic has been discussed heavily 'ere

Yep, I was included in the discussion. Still, I would be shocked to have Marston be a completely NON-playable character. Especially considering his franchise history.

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I'm very happy that Red Dead Redemption II has a single protagonist, character switching in Grand Theft Auto V was fun but I never developed any empathy or interest in any of the three protagonists because I was constantly switching between them.

I'm really excited to see Arthur Morgan's story unfold, I know a lot of people are sceptical of Arthur and unsure about whether he'll be a good protagonist but from what I've seen of Arthur so far he seems like a man who is a true product of his time and place in history which makes him a very interesting character for me.

A lot of people don't seem to like how he looks but I personally think he looks fine, I see the resemblance to Nathan Fillion @YodaMan 3D pointed out but the jawline and nose look very different.

Anyone else see a resemblance between the images below or am I alone on this one?

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image.png.dd0e2fc5aef9308a36b57f94ec630e8d.pngImage result for arthur morgan screenshot

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On 9/10/2018 at 9:16 PM, GatoNegro said:

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I know in the beginning, a lot of us were thinking we may be playing as multiple gang members in this one. This was partially based on GTA V's success and the knowledge of RDR2 being completely related and revolved around Dutch's gang. Knowing now that we will only be playing as Arthur, how do you feel about it?

Yes, I'm happy about it. I enjoy and prefer single player campaigns. I was apprehensive about the three protagonists in GTAV but they totally pulled it off. That design wouldn't fit in this one though and RDR1 had one protagonist so there's no harm in doing it again and focusing on and getting to know the one character. It seems they've more than made up for it by having such a large gang full of unique characters we can get to know.  

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On 9/13/2018 at 2:39 PM, Archbell said:

I'm very happy that Red Dead Redemption II has a single protagonist, character switching in Grand Theft Auto V was fun but I never developed any empathy or interest in any of the three protagonists because I was constantly switching between them.

Couldn't agree more. Three was just too many, especially considering one was a complete psychopath. I would have rather only played as Michael, then assisted the other two with their missions. If they HAD to switch characters, I would have rather Michael get hospitalized (or even killed), and you have to CHOOSE whether you proceed as Franklin or Trevor -- at least until Michael recovered.

Again, I'm not against playing as another character when the main character is unavailable or eliminated, but I did not care for the, "Hmm, I think I'll be Franklin now"-style of playing. But they FORCED you to play as these other players or else you couldn't complete the missions in the game.

I'll say it again -- I won't mind it if we play as Morgan for 90% of the game, then (AFTER HIS DEATH, or retirement, or whatever) you finish up as Marston. That's a necessity, rather than an option. Almost like a tribute to the fallen player, instead of "Okay, let's go huff some gasoline with Trevor now."  😒

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We know there is only a single protagonist, but that doesn't mean we could have a similar situation as RDR1 and once the game had finished we got to play as Jack, maybe R* will do something similar with RDR2. Ooooooooooo theories and ideas. LOL.

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Yes. I believe the who 3 chatacters of GTA5 was a play on the A Team 

Micheal was Hannibal and Face

Franklin was Mr. T

Trevor was Mad Murdock 

Having one toon that you can play your way is so much better than 3 people who's personalities and actions were somewhat predetermined 

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