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Last night talking with another player and he asked if I beat the game yet.  I said no, I am trying to do as much as I can in one experience.   He then tells me that he beat it in under 48 hours.   He then wants to brag about how he finished it before me.  I personally don't care I am enjoying the game.  So other then being rude.  Why is it players feel a need to rush through the game?  

By the way, he did no side missions, hunting, fishing, or anything else that was not part of a mission.  

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5 minutes ago, YodaMan 3D said:

Last night talking with another player and he asked if I beat the game yet.  I said no, I am trying to do as much as I can in one experience.   He then tells me that he beat it in under 48 hours.   He then wants to brag about how he finished it before me.  I personally don't care I am enjoying the game.  So other then being rude.  Why is it players feel a need to rush through the game?  

By the way, he did no side missions, hunting, fishing, or anything else that was not part of a mission.  

I've had discussions with people that do that as well.  It's certainly not something to brag about as they're missing so much of the overall game experience.  Sometimes I'll just sit in an area hunting a specific animal.  I'll have my baits and plenty of arrows and just move around a small area for hours on end taking in the sights and sounds and generally having an awesome time.  I'm thinking its mostly the younger generation that's doing this mainly as a means to get to a MP element.  Since there isn't one here yet it really makes no sense to just do the main campaign missions and nothing else.

I plan to run through the story multiple times, I'm being nice for my first game but I'm being a killing machine for my 2nd!!!!!

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Different people enjoy the game in different ways.  Different people get different things out of games.  There is no bad/wrong fun, just personal preferences. 

One can argue for one type of play style offering perhaps a richer or longer or more aesthetically pleasing experience than another, sure - but ultimately folk will subjectively decide for themselves.

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I don't get it either especially in a game like this that is obviously meant to be explored and soaked in. 

I also don't understand the bragging some do about such things as I simply don't care. It's a game and personally, I'd rather take my time and enjoy them rather than rush through.

The only exception are those games I tend to find boring or annoying over time.  FC5 was a good example of an open world that to me felt shallow and repetitive. I rushed through the last half and then uninstalled that mess.  .......RDR2 is the exact opposite IMO so I'm taking my time.

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Many reasons to race to the end.  I've done it before just to see the ending, then replay and focus on everything else.  This game i'm focusing on everything else first, then i'll finish the story line as i'm forced to, like 

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Progressing in Chapter 3 to unlock the Horse Fence

My son is leaving for Job Corps next week, he rushed through just doing story line so he could see the ending before he had to leave, now he's playing through again doing the side missions and challenges until he leaves.

I don't get the people that have to brag about it, what are they 10?

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19 minutes ago, YodaMan 3D said:

Having fun isn't the question?  Just curious why players rush through a game?

Fun is different for everyone like @Poggy said.  

it can be fun just doing the story line.  That's how i played RDR, i did the story line and had a blast just doing that.  I loved the story, it was entertaining and captured me so i just played it through.  Then i went back and played the side missions and whatnot that i missed along the way.  Then went back and played again to get what i missed on the last play through.  And then i did the whole game again, side content, etc along the way with the story line to refresh before RDR2 was released.

I've played other games that had story lines and side missions and open world stuff like this, and they weren't near as fun, the side content got boring so i just played the story line and had fun.  I can't go back and replay those, the story line wasn't captivating enough to suffer through it again.  RDR2 i'll be playing numerous times through.  First to do the other side of the hat, i'm playing red this first time, i'll play white next time.  Then i'll have to play through and get gold in all the missions.  Not to mention the hunting in this game is phenomenal.  I've been loving it, it's mostly what I've done since the game was released.

 

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1 hour ago, YodaMan 3D said:

Having fun isn't the question?  Just curious why players rush through a game?

Well I rushed in the first playthrough because I like RDR story, and I know myself enough to know that when the online part of it comes I will rarely go back to single-player.
Now that I already know everything that is to know I'm replaying and doing everything else I deemed unworthy of my time in the first playthrough, ( Like donating perfect carcass to the museum and fully upgrading the camp. ) until the online part comes up.

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I'm the opposite, i have more fun playing single player than online.  I get too frustrated my old reflexes can't match the kids playing online 24/7 lol  makes it less fun for me.  Of course i'll have to check it all out when it goes online, gta5 was fun for a while.

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40 minutes ago, Kormath said:

I'm the opposite, i have more fun playing single player than online.  I get too frustrated my old reflexes can't match the kids playing online 24/7 lol  makes it less fun for me.  Of course i'll have to check it all out when it goes online, gta5 was fun for a while.

I'm the first to admit how bad I am at video games. GTA was fun for a while then the turds invaded. 

I'm like you, I want to enjoy online but with the atmosphere of online gaming the way it is, it won't be fun.

I wished there was a full proof way to differentiate the turds from the casual just have fun players...

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Too many games, not enough time. I will sometimes rush through a game, just to complete. So I can go on to the next game. Though lately, I'll just indefinitely stop playing it while I play something else. 

I'm really enjoying this game. I find myself easily getting distracted by other side quests and various challenges. I seem to be making good progress through the story missions. I'm on Chapter 4. I assume I can still do all the many side quests/quests regardless of whichever chapter I'm on. Though it may mean more traveling to spots on the map, based on the games main progress.

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6 hours ago, Volt said:

Too many games, not enough time. I will sometimes rush through a game, just to complete. So I can go on to the next game. Though lately, I'll just indefinitely stop playing it while I play something else. 

I'm really enjoying this game. I find myself easily getting distracted by other side quests and various challenges. I seem to be making good progress through the story missions. I'm on Chapter 4. I assume I can still do all the many side quests/quests regardless of whichever chapter I'm on. Though it may mean more traveling to spots on the map, based on the games main progress.

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I wouldn't make that assumption about side quests if I were you. You might want to do them as they appear as some are chapter specific.

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I rushed throught story during first week after release just because I wanted to know how it ends. It was partly out of curiosity and partly because of how awesome story is. Now im doing everything else and I really enjoy that. 

You can beat the story but its only 1 part of the game. You don't "beat the game" by completing story, at all.

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I wouldn't say I rushed through the story. It's a shame we can't see how long we've played but I'd wager it took me 70-80 hrs to finish the game (I was home sick from work the first week after launch). Did all the satchel things and a ton of stranger missions while playing the story. Add another 30-40 hrs, if not more, to 100% the thing. There were instances in the story that pissed me off and I just wanted to get through it. I almost panicked at times because I was so angry. Not at the game but I was totally absorbed by the fantastic story.

But see, I love knowing I have 100%-ed the game and now I'm doing all the things ya'll are doing. I'm basically a drifting explorer, roaming from town to town playing poker games, investigating weird stuff, doing the occasional hunting and selling the carcasses to the butchers. During the story I barely killed anyone if it wasn't during a mission. Now I blow the head of anyone that's rude to me when I greet them and then make amends by fishing and throwing them back. I love it so much that I'm literally itching to get off work and go back to my world of mayhem and mishaps.

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It took me about 60 hours to finish the main story of the game.    I left alot of side quest for after the main campaign.

I mostly stuck with side missions that where tied to Arthur.   Camp mission...And stayed on track with the main story.  Hung around camp alot too.. 

For me, i don't like putting off main story missions for too long. I like to play it out like a TV series. That way its still fresh.

 

Sure as hell got my moneys worth. Can't wait to play through it again next year sometime.

 

 

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I'm in the middle of chapter 6, after about 160 hours.  I've been doing every optional mission, stranger mission, stranger encounter, camp item requests, moving event mission, and stranger interaction. 

Although I've done most eatser eggs, hissen sites, and four of the item collection quests (dreamcatchers, gunslingers, cigarette cards, rock carvings), and progressed somewhat on challenges and other things required for 100% completion, I'm mostly leaving those things for after-story game play, because I don't actually intend to play through the main story more than once.

My plan is basically: go through the story once only, doing every side quest as I go, in white hat mode before online comes out.  Then, post-story, do all the requirements (collectables, challenges etc) for the 100% and all other achievement trophies very slowly over time (in black hat mode), as well as checking off any remaining Easter eggs.  Slowly, because post-story I intend to sink my time mostly into online for a while.

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I wouldn't exactly say I raced to the end, tho I did somewhat rush it.  The story is a huge part of what I enjoy from the games I get, and I like seeing the complete picture first play through.  I did all the side quests, tons of strangers missions and other little things along the way (only missed giving a harmonica to somebody), but I don't like spending too much time doing the "extra" things along the way, usually do that a second playthrough (though that's usually things like intel/dogtags or whatever that needs a second playthrough, most games I play can do the stuff at the end).  It's kinda the same principle of watching a recorded show, I start it, but the more I pause it or take long breaks in between, the more I forget what happened before.  A little easier remembering the whole story when I experience it with little to no interruptions.

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I agree different people play for different reasons, to each their own.

I'm like the OP I've had the game since release, play daily and am on chapter 3, I've done as much trapping, hunting, fishing, every side mission I can, everything. I'm enjoying the HECK outta this game. I even find myself with nothing more to do than the main story missions and I'm not wanting it to end so I all of a sudden find a pond I've not fished yet and think, "COOL another fishing spot".

I hear you can't play online until you finish the story mode, not sure how true that is as most other games the online multiplayer is a different section from the story/campaign mode, but if I have to finish the offline part to be able to access the online part....I guess the online part will just have to wait LOL

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My friend beat it the first weekend it was out. Now he is playing through the story again to really get the most from it. His reasoning is that he wanted to know how the story goes and if he makes any mistakes or misses something, he can get it the second time around. I am in no rush and still have a decent amount of stuff to do myself.

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23 hours ago, Poggy said:

No, side quests can close after certain chapters or if you pass them by.  Some hang around a bit, ithers don't.  Do the as you get them.

Opps! Thanks for the heads up. 

Another play though doesn't sound too bad. Though I wish there was a way to speed through the tutorial. Now that I think of it, I think I do have a save at the very beginning of Chapter 2.  This was showing a friend how the beginning of the game goes.

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On 11/22/2018 at 8:40 AM, Willard said:

I rushed throught story during first week after release just because I wanted to know how it ends. It was partly out of curiosity and partly because of how awesome story is. Now im doing everything else and I really enjoy that. 

You can beat the story but its only 1 part of the game. You don't "beat the game" by completing story, at all.

You can rush the story but will not beat the game, as after three fails you can win any mission by cutting to the end of the story - but that is not beating the game.

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1 hour ago, robjohn14 said:

You can rush the story but will not beat the game, as after three fails you can win any mission by cutting to the end of the story - but that is not beating the game.

 

Ehm, did i say i skipped anything? I didn't skip a single mission/dialog during that story rush. Anyway, who fails more than once during story man? My point was that finishing story doesn't mean you beat the game. Finishing story is just one of things to do if you want to "beat the game".

You have story mode, ok. But there are optional quests, stranger missions, challenges, treasure hunts, carvings to find, bones to collect, different weapons to find, gunslingers, legendary animals and fishes etc.

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On 11/21/2018 at 8:00 AM, YodaMan 3D said:

Last night talking with another player and he asked if I beat the game yet.  I said no, I am trying to do as much as I can in one experience.   He then tells me that he beat it in under 48 hours.   He then wants to brag about how he finished it before me.  I personally don't care I am enjoying the game.  So other then being rude.  Why is it players feel a need to rush through the game?  

By the way, he did no side missions, hunting, fishing, or anything else that was not part of a mission.  

 

I'm with you brother! I pre-ordered and started playing the second I could back on the 26th, and I have no shame in admitting that I'm still just starting chapter 3. With a game where so much was put into an immersive and rich environment, I'm going to take full advantage, get every penny's worth that Rockstar invested, and just move into the game, so to speak. Let them troll me for my gaming ability, I have no doubts about my own skills, and I think, personally, that I'm getting the better value from this impressive, old west experience.

I think it's that same internet competitiveness driving people to beat the game fast that also pushed people to claim "first" in responding to some forums and blogs, be the first to share secrets, cheats and spoilers because it makes them look informed, and claim the game is "sh*t" because they think it makes them look like a super gamer.

Welcome to the internet, where "connected" can all too often be read as "up to our nipples in idiots."

I guess that if this is how some people enjoy and get value from their gaming dollar, that’s fine. Who am I to dictate how they have fun? So long as it doesn’t interfere with mine.

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