**Animal Spawn Issue Discussion** (Since Summer and Recent Updates)

[chrishart225]

On 10/6/2019 at 11:33 AM, The Blue Hare said:

put 21 lazy people in a server and they all go to emerald ranch for sheep to satisfy a daily instead of the High Country to find their own. I am the 22nd person in that server who goes to the High Country for bighorn. I was hunting geese on the pond in the emerald ranch area and saw eight players ride up looking for sheep inside of 30 minutes. I figure that's the crowd that relies on YouTube for everything they do in the game. I was waiting for them to make a big bonfire, wear matching t-shirts, pull out the marshmallows, and sing kumbaya 😆😂🤣🤣🤣🤣

hell no I've camped there and had no spawn of Cows,Goats,Chickens,Sheep,  but Horses yes a few there.

[C20Dragon]

I created a new character yesterday & played for 5 hours yesterday & all day today. I had no issues with animals spawning nor did I have any issues with with my camp spawning in. I did missions & after each one when I spawned in my camp was always there. Rode from mission to mission, hunting on the way & I always saw a bunch animals. I also was in severs with 18 to 24 players. So either I’ve been real luck or I think the problem is with the new roles themselves. This weekend I’ll play with my new character & see if I have any issues.

[Shifter0351]

I just rode from blackwater to strawberry and back looking at known cougar spots for the daily. I didn't see a single animal. No birds, rabbits, or deer let alone cougars. I've tried going in and out of free roam with no luck.

What is going on?

[Ozy8753]

Try changing servers I've shoot 3 cougars today.

[MrPicard]

It's a known bug. Try finding a server with fewer players. The fewer players, the more animals you'll see. I was on a server with only four other players a few days ago and I had animals spawn at every possible opportunity.

[Kean_1]

54 minutes ago, Shifter0351 said:

I just rode from blackwater to strawberry and back looking at known cougar spots for the daily. I didn't see a single animal. No birds, rabbits, or deer let alone cougars. I've tried going in and out of free roam with no luck.

What is going on?

We've got other active threads on the same topic.  I'm going to merge all into one in the Troubleshooting sub forum.....

[chrishart225]

the last couple of days have been better.  i have been on the same servers for a few hours and animals have been spawning. even Emerald Ranch is full of cows and sheep

[Shifter0351]

I've done some testing. And it doesn't seem to matter the people in the server or where they are camping. Highly populated areas have no animals and if you travel to an area with no people or camps still nothing.

While some severs have many spawns but are still highly populated. You just have to travel a bit to get away from the areas being actively hunted.

I think it's just luck of the draw if the server you get has animals or not. Something is wrong with their system.

I was kind of hoping for a unknown Halloween event where the animals disappeared for a week and then zombies showed up...

 

Edited October 13, 2019 by Kean_1
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[C20Dragon]

I’ve been playing the last 4 days on my new character & have seen animals everywhere. I haven’t gotten the no animals spawning glitch at all. I bought the collector’s role earlier today (Thinking the coding for the new roles has something to do with it)  But I still have no issues with animals spawning. I’ve had a massive amount of animals everywhere, from seeing packs of 8 coyotes, flocks of 10 ducks, & a bunch of deers & pronghorns everywhere, just to name a few. I’ve been in servers with 20 plus players too.

I think the glitch has something to do with the Trader role it self. Nothing to do with sever size or hunting location.

[Jimblob]

Well this has certainly been a discussion, thank's for your post's info and suggestion's.  I have also noticed once I have completed the daily hunting task's for Cripps the spawn rate improves. So in conclusion I have decided this is deliberate by R*, example I joined a possee of 30 & 40 Lvl players to do long distance trade run's wih them, one was a bit short of the 100 so they went hunting and they found very litte to shoot. so I tried an experiment I left the possee jumped server and with in a minute got a message from possee leader saying animal's in abundence. i am Lvl 264, so it apper's R* are nerfing it for higher Lvl player's. Nuff said.

[pluck3]

Animals are no where to find , unless you are a bit wise and switch servers , join a friend , or another session multiple times a day to have the chance to spot 1 to 8 animals in   8hour of gaming then maybe ur lucky...     when u get animals to spawn ... you cant set your camp , keep blinking being pitched being pitched , crips even pack my camp when i have none not to mention that every NPC i see on roads on coach or horse are invisible.... as well a custom outfit always setting back to '' no outfit roles ''  instead of flooding us with new updates and new clothing styles , why dont you fix your game ,  and to end , removing the old pvp map to now rename them adding ( freeaim) to it , the same exact match u removed in same map , isnt a NEW CONTENT.

Edited October 26, 2019 by pluck3

[Kean_1]

55 minutes ago, pluck3 said:

.... instead of flooding us with new updates and new clothing styles , why dont you fix your game ,  and to end , removing the old pvp map to now rename them adding ( freeaim) to it , the same exact match u removed in same map , isnt a NEW CONTENT.

fyi....  When you say "you", please understand that RDR2.org is merely a fan site and not affiliated with R* or Take Two in any way.  There are also no representatives (that we know of) who post here.

 

[NapaBaldor]

I have to admit I loved the SP game, and really like online (when it works), however between the inability to spawn a camp (or keep it spawned) and the complete lack of animals, the game is unplayable.  At present I am over level 130, but just cannot bring myself to play.

 

R* PLEASE FIX THIS ASAP!

 

I rode from Blackwater to the far end of Big Valley and saw NO game animals ( a couple of song birds hardly counts as wildlife)!

I then spent another 10 minutes riding around and aside from the odd raven flying in the distance the only thing I saw was a pile of NPC's.

 

I am invested in the Trader role and have little interest in the others (however I did max rank them all) and I have resorted to riding around with the metal detector not because I want to find things for the Collector role but out of boredom.  There used to be a risk to this activity as a cougar or grizzly could get the jump on you, but with the current state of affairs there is no danger of that.

 

If CPU usage is an issue, may I suggest the following:

-Reduce the number of "Free Roam" notifications, let people go into the menu to select them, or at least allow us to turn them off

-Cut back on some of the unneeded actions/code (i.e. horses could poop 1/3 of the time they do now and no one would care)

-Reduce the number of players in a lobby

-Reduce the number of NPC's, there literally are more NPC's than animals at present (by a significant multiple).

 

In short, although the new update is fun to play, the current state of the game makes it frustrating and I no longer spend my time with it.

I would like to be able to come back, but if the game is playing the way it was intended, then I (and I suspect many others) will move on to other games.

It is my wish that R* fixes this ASAP (so the Trader role is again viable and fun), but understand if they want to take the game in a different direction.

 

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[Herta47]

My dog is vanished from camp? I already informed R* by ticket,

[flu007]

20 minutes ago, Herta47 said:

My dog is vanished from camp? I already informed R* by ticket,

The game seems particularly glitchy the last few days. Might be coincidence, dunno. Lots of camp issues today. Had it stuck on trying to pitch a camp for a solid 5 minutes before it finally pitched one. Then later my horse lost its saddle when fast traveling to camp, and a bit later I got back to camp and there was nothing there (only the blue icon.) Then the game froze up on me, but I was about to relog anyway.

Did you try that, by the way? Restarting the game. I mean.

 

[Herta47]

3 minutes ago, flu007 said:

The game seems particularly glitchy the last few days. Might be coincidence, dunno. Lots of camp issues today. Had it stuck on trying to pitch a camp for a solid 5 minutes before it finally pitched one. Then later my horse lost its saddle when fast traveling to camp, and a bit later I got back to camp and there was nothing there (only the blue icon.) Then the game froze up on me, but I was about to relog anyway.

Did you try that, by the way? Restarting the game. I mean.

 

My game was also frozen twice and quited😢😢

[MrPicard]

Lots of glitches for me as well today... for an hour or so there were no animals at all, not even birds and then all of a sudden they were all over the place and I almost crashed into an elk and trampled a bunch of rabbits (I checked the player numbers, it was still the same number of players on the server, so that wasn't the reason). And then my camp suddenly appeared (it hadn't spawned when I logged in) and disappeared again. Maybe R* were testing something? Sure seemed like it.

[Aval0n]

I've been hunting in New Austin the last couple of days and found almost no wildlife day or night. I found one ram yesterday and found a couple of small varmint type animals. That's it. No pigs, no pronghorns, no iguanas, almost no animals anywhere since the big moonshiner update.

[Zui]

Take a picture so you don’t forget what it looks like.  Yeah, the more people in your session the fewer animals.  Still plenty of flowers and herbs to pick though.

[The_Liquor]

Has anyone stopped to think that with thousands of us killing animals indiscriminately every day that we are just killing off all the wildlife? Would kind of be historically accurate and the whole reason behind the start of licensing and bag limits and conservation minded wildlife harvesting... (I’m just joking obviously... But people wanted realism)...

[Dissention]

RDO is now vegan friendly

All I know is until they fix this bug/Nerf  I'm taking out the dairy cows and beating the Java chickens with a hammer daily as a sign of protest. 

It's so bad that I believe some dude stole my  perfect cow pelt off the back of my horse while I was clearing a hideout (and the only reason I didn't torch him and his 2 man posse is because I'm not sure and have had a couple of large pelts disappear bug happening again)

[MrPicard]

No animals whatsoever for me either ever since the Moonshiner update. Frustrating. So... frustrating.

[EjectedCasings]

Since the update for me:

-2 whitetail deer

-3 jackrabbits

- a dozen assorted songbirds

-1 pronghorn

 

I wish Cripps would take fish.

[Darconios]

1 year ago..... I would wake up in the morning and switch on RDR2 before work.   I would run around the three islands (the 3 you can run to each other) off rhodes.

My goal would be to empty my .22   which held 100 rounds.

Today I went there to fill up on mint (islands have like 20+) and did my same routine I did 100's of times before...

Not 1 toad.
Not 1 crab.
Not 1 Iguna.
Not 1
No eagles, owls, bunnies....  I thought maybe it was the added canoes.. but no... its like this everywhere.

I got 3 ducks and a muskrat.  I used to get my animal fat exclusively from ducks on that island.... now I go mostly for boars and "spotted pigs" by the station... (even thats nerfed).

I liked the hunting.. Id rather they nerfed what the animals were worth than making us ride around like tools for 30 minutes at a time.

The game is useless for hunting if they remove entire sections of animals depending upon what day it is or however they do it.

The only way to hunt now is on mission servers (notice more bunnies when on missions.. there is a reason..).. so go on a delivery for cripps and deliver  1 item... then hunt ... or if he sends you to hunt a deer for trade with a trader... forget it and just hunt for yourself... you can always redo supply missions.

Today I left the islands with 85 rounds in my .22

That's 85 more bullets than I used to leave with for same amount of time.. That is how many animals are taken out of the game...

A good 85%

I'd feel sorry for anyone starting now.  I maxed out collecting and kept at it because I knew it would be nerfed.  I got rich first... but a person starting today is screwed.







 

Edited December 18, 2019 by Darconios

[Fish47375]

No animals and moonshiner role sucks. Every time i go back to my shack it always has me starting over with no shine ready or even being produced. Says 45 minutes and i go back way before than and always the same. Start over and it costs me money. Can`t do Trader role because of no animals. They really have it jacked up now. On the bright side i can still do Bounties  lol

[Darconios]

Go to mission servers to hunt... launch a mission and dont do it.. just go fill your wagon.. but it takes a lot more to keep cripps happy... switch to bloods (JK).

Im pretty sure only certain flavors of moonshine delivery are bugged... the $226 berry one  works fine for me as example... but not all the $247 (I think). Dont leave the bar until he has made at least one bottle.. never change flavors.... until bugs gone.

Edited December 18, 2019 by Darconios

[LordOdin61]

Been trying to do Trader levelling since moonshiner dropped, it was ok for the first day but since then it's garbage, trying to level with Skunks and Badgers etc and most of them are one star or 2. I head shot a 3 star wolf yesterday and when I skinned it, it was 1 star. I can't be bothered doing the Moonshiner role atm, I done a couple of missions but the second had me sat on a black screen for 10 minutes until I had to reload the game.

[James Hickok_1837]

19 hours ago, MrPicard said:

No animals whatsoever for me either ever since the Moonshiner update. Frustrating. So... frustrating.

Same. I got so pissed after a few hours of play y-day with no animals and moonshiner resetting to 0 bottles and stuck on moonshiner shack loading screen i rage quitted the game. Hope it will be better today. 

[CosmoKramer]

I'm down to a single page in my satchel for materials to give to Cripps and my wagon is empty for the first time since I bought it as the only way to supply Cripps for the past week has been from my reserves. I couldn't even find small birds to kill for one of yesterday's challenges. I did somehow manage to find the single alligator the game spawned when I had a hunting resupply mission a few days ago. Hell, I even ruined one of the moonshiner story missions because I got so excited spotting a deer that I just had to shoot it when I was supposed to be being stealthy.

Typical R* update - some shiny new stuff (tho buggy as hell), a few fixes that we should have had ages ago, and a whole host of new & old broken gameplay mechanics. 

[James Hickok_1837]

Have been playing for 2 hours today Just now and i cant find any game. anywhere - Just 4 crows, 3 wolves (ambush) and 3 ducks, 2 spoonbils. When i want to change servver i get a never ending loading screen. This is the worst it has been with Animals since 12 months! Why arent they doing nothing i mean cmon! R* fix ur shiet.